Found this link over at opa-ages
http://s12.invisionfree.com/UNOFFICIAL_UKR_FORUM/index.php?showtopic=13
http://s12.invisionfree.com/UNOFFICIAL_UKR_FORUM/index.php?showtopic=13
House Of The Dead 4 arcade - on test in Japan
- Thread starter Megadrive1988
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Do you expect anything else from our dear Deadmeat.... i mean... TEXAN..
Megadrive1988
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TEXAN said:
I say fake, until we see some official press releases from Sega-Sammy and or ImgTec.
besides, there would be no need for an "ELAN 2", a seperate geometry processor, since PowerVR5 would have advanced vertex shaders / geometry engines, on-chip - as would the older cancelled PowerVR4.
TEXAN said:
IS there a Super H-7? At that speed?
What floating point accelerator, unless it means the PPU sega licensed.
2.5 billion polys per second sustained? I'd say probably not, maybe that's the system's theoretical max transform rate.
100GPixels and Gtexels? Even with 5 times overdraw, 20GPixels and 20Gtexels would still be a very fast part without overdraw.
Megadrive1988 said:
I am not saying the spec is true, but this spec isn't too far fetch and isn't mind blowing either. It looks like a 16 pipe solution with 10x overdraw being quoted. Maybe it has a really beefed up triangle setup engine enabling 2.5 b pps figure *shrugs*
SH7 is the elusive multicore part from the SuperH, but there has been no progress report since its announcement of its development. But not many processors have progress PR either.
It might be what they call their vertex shader, they can't use vertex shader because that's a DirectX term.
Or maybe its a solution like 3DLabs one. With seperate vertex and pixel processor on different chip. PVR5 spec was never revealed AFAIK.
Vertex Shader is not a trademark of MSFT, ImgTec could use it.V3 said:
On an embedded system like an arcade, where pixel processing is more important than geometry, I don't really see the immediate usefulness of such a setup.V3 said:
No, that's not HDR.amk said:
PC-Engine said:
I agree those shots look terrible.
Evil_Cloud
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Let's wait untill the arcade board is properly revealed in the near future before we break or praise. But I do agree these shots look not good for a next-generation high-end board, it might be a very early work in progress...
If it is a Xbox 360 based arcade board it could very well be like the alpha games we've seen running on Xbox 360 in May.
If it is a Xbox 360 based arcade board it could very well be like the alpha games we've seen running on Xbox 360 in May.
Vysez said:
Fair enough.
Sega is probably more at home with vertex processing. They are not up to the West anyway in term of pixel processing used in their games. These shots of HOTD4 probably tells the story quite well.
Beside their Arcade games are mostly Racing, Fighting and Sports. They probably could use higher polygon rate.
Iron Tiger
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I think you have your generations crossed between the X360 and PS3. The Xenos' unified shader architecture is the unavoidable future of PC gaming graphics tech, whereas the RSX is based on an existing PC architecture. The G70 (RSX-alike) was launched recently and the R600 (unified shaders) won't be out until next year/generation. So if the PVR5 was ready early this year, it's one (or more like half) generation behind the PS3 graphics technology and 2 generations behind the X360 tech.Lazy8s said:
That reference was not to architectural generations, but to product generations. With a realtime public debut timed for E3, Lindbergh has been running full speed games for some time now while X360 hardware was still at only a small fraction of its final speed. With even the initial Lindbergh titles getting a full development cycle, they wouldn't start coming out until mid-2006 had they instead waited to use X360 arcade hardware (putting their debut after the release of both the PS3 and X360), assuming Sega Sammy could even secure sufficient supply of the custom X360 parts from Microsoft and their partners during their launch.
I doubt that Lindbergh = X360. Sega have to at least have something different to ensure success in the arcades. Then again it's funny how peoples' 'impressions' of screenshots will change according to what platform they believe the game is running on. I still regard these as 'in developement'
screenshots and will judge the game on its technical merits when I see the finished version in motion.
screenshots and will judge the game on its technical merits when I see the finished version in motion.
Megadrive1988
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even though it is remotely possible that Lindbergh is based on Xbox360, I highly doubt it, I really do.
It's probably an early version of PowerVR Series 5.
way back in the mid 1990s, were there not a few arcade boards based on early PowerVR Series 1 technology with seperate ISP and TSP chips? (Simon F might remember) ??
another explaination for HOTD4 graphics, is, maybe its not Series 5 at all, but a really beefy implementation of a MBX derivate. but I know that Lazy8s would disagree with that (and I would tend to myself) because the lowend Aurora board is meant to be using a beefy MBX chip.
It's probably an early version of PowerVR Series 5.
way back in the mid 1990s, were there not a few arcade boards based on early PowerVR Series 1 technology with seperate ISP and TSP chips? (Simon F might remember) ??
another explaination for HOTD4 graphics, is, maybe its not Series 5 at all, but a really beefy implementation of a MBX derivate. but I know that Lazy8s would disagree with that (and I would tend to myself) because the lowend Aurora board is meant to be using a beefy MBX chip.