Has the console forum been axed?

[Edge]

http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/discussions.php

Their "PlayStation Paradise" forum is dominated by Xbox fans cutting down Sony and the PS3.

 

[seismologist]

It wan't turning into GAF out of thin air....theres a reason behind it..and I bet if you look at alot of the newer users....you may be surprised at where they orginated from.

PS: Not to knock anyone whos new..hell, i'm no senior member myself...but the ones that do just retort some frivalous comments...they know who they are.

I think this has more to do with it than GA itself.

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Reirom Killed Beyond3d Forum Gafers Am Cry

unfortunately by closing the console forum B3D staff has played right into their hands.

 

[Carl B]

I think the reason sites are able to thrive on PC tech news is because there's always a steady stream of it coming out. But console tech is the tech that really fires up the imagination, and the console industry is the one with the crazy characters. I build my own PC's so I definitely follow PC-related news, but it can't make me feel the same way as I did when I first heard about Cell or Xenos, know what I mean?

I just think that there is something truly romantic and elegant about console arhcitectures and the make-or-break five year cycles on which they operate.

BUT, that's just me. 8)

 

[Nite_Hawk]

More mods is fine. But without authority, then you just end up with a bunch of locked threads. But I also think the mods need to change. For reasons that afflict GAF, you have double-standards. You can't partake in mudslinging if you're gonna be an enforcer. GAF has that, but that's a forum that never made any pretenses about being neutral. It's a family over there, and you either get it or you don't. But this place has always been system-neutral, and the mods should be as well. And I think there's a large number of old-schoolers (guys from the black forum days) that would do well in moderator roles. Especially since lots of them still post/lurk, and are even-handed as well as tech-focused. There has been a subjective use of the lock and the threat so far, and some bad examples being set, which set a bad precedent. When you make it clear that stuff will fly, it will.

That said, the forum was worse than this 5 years ago. You have to admit that. There were so many flamewars that I actually stopped reading this place in favor of GAF. This place was just one flamebait post after another. Inaction is the reason the forum gets to where it does, not just the users. Like alligators growing to their environment, posters will conform to the norms. I post at OA and GAF, and I'm a different poster in each of those forums. Not that my personality is any less abrasive, just that constraints set by good modding allow more varying levels of freedom.

I admit I have a tendency to sometimes get involved in system warfare, but it's something that should never even be an issue on a tech forum like this in the first place. For the longest while, I only lurked for that very reason. I can't really add as much to a discussion with the level of know-how here...or that used to be here. But for high-level discussion, I'm fine, which is why I eventually registered in 2003. But if there's system banter going on, and I see it's suddenly become accepted, why wouldn't I partake in it a bit? I mean, this is a discussion board, right? It's hard to avoid discussion, no matter how low-brow it may be sometimes. So I think good moderation is essential, and that it requires more than just throwing more people at the job. It's about quality, not quantity. PEACE.

I agree actually. I was around during the black forum days, and things really don't seem any worse to me now than they were back then. Remember all of the old Voodoo flamefests? It's easy to forget about them because we had things like the great Anti Aliasing articles, but I honestly don't get why people think things are worse now than they were back then. We still have great discussion too, and from some very knowledgable sources!

It's just really that things are different now. Instead of having trolls constantly bombard the 3D Technology and hardware forum we have them in console forum. Now that the console forum is gone, assuming another forum becomes as popular it will also attract the trolls. Maybe they will move back to the 3D Technology and Hardware forum where they were a couple of years ago.

Nite_Hawk

 

[pc999]

That may not be true at all

This year in pcs we have

dual core cpus
cross fire with 3 gpus
ppus
dedicated sound hardware

large amounts of system ram and dedicated video ram and dedicated sound ram .

Things may be very diffrent this gen

I dont agree, because till the game dev really use those features (once that at the end of the year only a very few ones will have that).

For a good time inovation should be presented in consoles, IMO.

For that I think that it would be better to have thinghs separated.

BTW I has intent to make a question about AI, based mostly in next gen consoles, in which forum should I post it

 

[Ty]

I think it's time for you to just get over it. Doesn't matter what people do on other boards.

Was I talking about you?

 

[Sean*O]

 

[jvd]

BTW I has intent to make a question about AI, based mostly in next gen consoles, in which forum should I post it

As long as it applys to coding on pcs also then 3d coding would be a good spot

I dont agree, because till the game dev really use those features (once that at the end of the year only a very few ones will have that).

Remember these features are already there . Dx 9 has been on pcs for 3-4 years now and you can get a decent dx 9 card for 50$ usd . PPus will use the middle ware physics engines can would be supported by a patch. x86-64 has been out for 2 years or so now and intel has a solution for a few months already . Dual cores will take a bit longer but they will come and dedicated sound cards have allways been supported

 

[pc999]

As long as it applys to coding on pcs also then 3d coding would be a good spot

I think it is only a matter of time, till PC get it.

IRemember these features are already there . Dx 9 has been on pcs for 3-4 years now and you can get a decent dx 9 card for 50$ usd . PPus will use the middle ware physics engines can would be supported by a patch. x86-64 has been out for 2 years or so now and intel has a solution for a few months already . Dual cores will take a bit longer but they will come and dedicated sound cards have allways been supported

Yes but even one of the most powerfull engines (UE3) will need to run on a P43Ghz and a 9700, no gameplay feature will need more than this in 2006, that is why I stand in my opinion (for example Halo when it cames out it has a lot of good things(AI, physics, large environments) that does not exist in PC).

 

[BlueTsunami]

It wan't turning into GAF out of thin air....theres a reason behind it..and I bet if you look at alot of the newer users....you may be surprised at where they orginated from.

PS: Not to knock anyone whos new..hell, i'm no senior member myself...but the ones that do just retort some frivalous comments...they know who they are.

I think this has more to do with it than GA itself.

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unfortunately by closing the console forum B3D staff has played right into their hands.

Opa: 1

B3D: 0

Sad but true, your right...now its time to get some missinformation from sites other B3D..it was MY semi reliable source for console information. I believe your doing your members a disjustice by doing this especially when a majority of us are interested in consoles at this point in time... I mean..this can be likend to the March Madness of console information!.

 

[digitalwanderer]

Opa: 1

B3D: 0

Heh, but how will it be when it turns out this forced Dave to open up an entirely new site for consoles to compete/devastate the oopa-looopa kiddies?

When Dave opens up BeyondConsoles I'm pretty sure it'll quickly become the premiere console site on the web, fair enough payback to the oopa fanboys.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Opa: 1

B3D: 0

Heh, but how will it be when it turns out this forced Dave to open up an entirely new site for consoles to compete/devastate the oopa-looopa kiddies?

When Dave opens up BeyondConsoles I'm pretty sure it'll quickly become the premiere console site on the web, fair enough payback to the oopa fanboys.

Hell Yeah!!! I just hate that....like seismic said...there mission was to disrupt this community and polarize it....but yeah...if we come out with a better and stronger console forum than maybe this is for the better.

 

[lip2lip]

First my net girlfriend doesn't reply to my msn messages, now console forums is closed....

SORROW!!

 

[Carl B]

Wait, what? Are you saying there was a concerted effort by Opa members to take down the B3D console forum? And not only is this some sort of weird joke, but it was real?

(you guys are starting to lose me - I'm pretty confused)

 

[gosh]

you guys have failed the purpose of the internet by closing console forum

 

[PARANOiA]

I'm really disappointed in this move, Dave (or whoever did it). I appreciate you didn't care about the Console Forum, but a lot of us did.

When raising children, you can't let them take a cookie from the cookie jar, watch them and not do anything. Watch them take it a second time, third time, fourth time. Then at the fifth time, you can't just belt them across the face, saying "what you did was wrong!".

Measured steps. Displayed measured steps.

I also appreciate this is not a democratic forum, and you are boss. But there was a lot of positive discussion about consoles on B3d. Probably the best on the internet. It will be sad to see it gone. I just hope it doesn't bite you in the butt, with the console-folk overflowing into General Hardware, Games, and 3D Architecture/Companies. At least it was roped in being at CT.

 

[_leech_]

What i find pretty idiotic is that it's apperently easier to shut the entire forum down than it is to ban the specific people causing trouble. Like cutting off your leg because there's a mosquito bite on your toe.

 

[AlgebraicRing]

I just want to chime in that the B3d console forum has been one of the best places on the net to get intelligent points of view. If the console forum is not coming back, can anyone recommend a forum that is as good as the B3d console forum was?

AR

 

[crystalcube]

can anyone recommend a forum that is as good as the B3d console forum was?

naot many places like this around , if any.

Console forums here were/(are?) best resource for console tech and not just 3D but architecure , etc. In forums there always is some trouble and always be. Wherever people express their views theres bound to be conflicts .

I dont know if its possible to get a temp. forums running to fill the gap while the mgmt here can decide.

 

[Sis]

Wait, what? Are you saying there was a concerted effort by Opa members to take down the B3D console forum? And not only is this some sort of weird joke, but it was real?

(you guys are starting to lose me - I'm pretty confused)

It's no joke. If you go to the opa-ages website, you'll find a post with them gloating about it.

I find it ironic, too, that gosh would complain about the console forum closing, given that a) "gosh" is an anonymous account from bugmenot and b) half the posts from that account were trollish.

.Sis