HalfLife 2 on N5 and PS3

GOSH... HL2 will be ancient by the time the next gen consoles come out.. like Half Life for PS2...

i mean, it will still be a very enjoyable experience, and i'm looking forward to this one much more than, say, Doom3, but 2 years on i'll be over it....
 
maybe they ment GC and PS2 as "NextGen" Consoles...

some people still call XBox/PS2/GC "NextGen" for some stragne reasons
 
Must be some kind of typo maybe. HL2 will be a gnat in the face of the next gen consoles.

I think they will bung it on all of the current consoles, Xbox is just the easiest.
Valve have to keep the money pool full you know, they've go to have somewhere to swim and have money fights!

It would be pretty easy for them I think, since they have such a scalable engine they will just port it to the GC and PS2 in DX7 mode.

Kind of sad really, because with some work GC could run it at near its full glory. It would be a real coup if Nintendo helped Valve port it well, but that won't happen.
Not that I would personally want to play a such a quintessential PC game on anything other than a PC, but it would be good to see.
 
london-boy said:
GOSH... HL2 will be ancient by the time the next gen consoles come out.. like Half Life for PS2...

Old, but not "ancient". Plus, there's no reason they won't be sending many improvements on their own engine down the pipe by that time. I figure the HL2 and Doom3 engines will be getting much use for a LOOOONG time to come, since major replacements don't leap to the fore every two years or so. It's amusing to contemplate how old the engine bases are on many modern games. And yet it doesn't necessitate them looking as if it where made years previous! You're all shocked, I know...
 
Seriously, who would want to play HL2 on a console after playing it on a PC :? IMHO, PC games ported to consoles are not even worth a rent.
 
I am more interested in KillZone....didn;t like that sliding sort of Half Life1...anyway good that PC developers are bowing before Console Power... :D
 
Porting qualities all depend--some are crap, some are entirely fine, and some can end up being better. For myself, I don't care much about FPSes on consoles for entirely different reasons. Still doesn't mean HL2 will be "old hat" or look like crap in the future.
 
considering that half life 2 does not use everything in the engine and they have stated that the engine will have thigns added to it when new cards come out i wouldn't rule this out as a very nice launch game for next gen systems .
 
Bohdy said:
Must be some kind of typo maybe. HL2 will be a gnat in the face of the next gen consoles.

I think they will bung it on all of the current consoles, Xbox is just the easiest.
Valve have to keep the money pool full you know, they've go to have somewhere to swim and have money fights!

It would be pretty easy for them I think, since they have such a scalable engine they will just port it to the GC and PS2 in DX7 mode.

Kind of sad really, because with some work GC could run it at near its full glory. It would be a real coup if Nintendo helped Valve port it well, but that won't happen.
Not that I would personally want to play a such a quintessential PC game on anything other than a PC, but it would be good to see.

Are you mad? I'm sure Valve is already stretching things greatly with the 64 megs of ram in the Xbox, let alone the PS2 and GC are like/less than half of that.
 
GameCube, PS2 and even Xbox will not be able to do play HL2 or games based on the HL2 engine, nearly as well as a highend or midrange PC can.

GC only has 24 MB of main memory. PS2 has 32 MB. The Xbox with its 64 MB memory will still comprimise HL2 greatly.

but N5 and PS3 will be fine for HL2 since they will both have at least 256 MB of high-bandwidth main memory. N5 and PS3 will have the computing resources, the graphics processing resources, the memory resources and the bandwidth resources to do games based on HL2 and DOOM3 engines incredibly well. unlike PS2 and GC, or even XBox.

It makes perfect sense to put HL2 and HL2 engine-based games on N5 and PS3. it does not make sense to put them on GC or PS2.
 
cthellis42 said:
Plus, there's no reason they won't be sending many improvements on their own engine down the pipe by that time. I figure the HL2 and Doom3 engines will be getting much use for a LOOOONG time to come, since major replacements don't leap to the fore every two years or so.

He was correct. The Doom3 Engine will be obsolete the day Doom3 is released from a sheer technological point of view. Carmack himself has stated that D3 will die quickly and he'll write a new DX9/10 engine after Doom.

I'd also expect the NGConsoles to be a bit above the PC progression.
 
Vince said:
He was correct. The Doom3 Engine will be obsolete the day Doom3 is released from a sheer technological point of view. Carmack himself has stated that D3 will die quickly and he'll write a new DX9/10 engine after Doom.

I'd also expect the NGConsoles to be a bit above the PC progression.

Yeah, but how many engines are "obsolete" right now that are still the cores of modern games? D3 may have little headroom, but devs will still likely be picking it up and running with it for years until they DO get the next engine coming down the pipe. I can't see everyone flocking to HL2's over all other options... You don't need the absolute best engine to look good, and certainly all devs are not flocking to the most technically capable ones. I don't see the pattern changing much in the future anyway, unless the PS3 and next consoles get explosively better than PCs... And even if they DO, it will take developers years to ramp up anyway--we'll just see a steadier climb.
 
Paul said:

Half life 2 and a few others have it beat. That doesn't mean it looks like shit though, but technically; it's still beat.

How is it 'beat'? HL focuses on large open areas, Doom 3 is about claustrophobia, they're "different".
 
zurich said:
Paul said:
Still beat. Half life 2 has the better engine.

Er, ok.

I've learned not to bother talking to him .

but zurich From what i've seen of doom3 its much much better than half life 2 in terms of lighting and shadows. Half life 2 def has the size and outside areas done very well. Both will look much better than the best xbox and ps2 has to offer.
 
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