Formula 1 - 2014 Season
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I'm still hoping for Nico to win.
As much as I'm impressed with the way Rosberg has driven this year and how he has shown his quality - IMO - if he still were to win the WDC, it would be a calamity. If the guy with half as many wins and 2nd in every race where they've raced neck at neck sans Monaco wins it... it just doesn't seem right. And personally, I'm a bit worried that the double point insanity will actually make a difference in a way that will make the sport look rather stupid.
Your Tinfoil hat is showing! But i am glad you made a list of all the things that speaks positively about his person. It is very short
I didn't know I was making a list. Clearly of the two Hamilton is the one that is coming up this season smelling of roses. Rosberg had only hurt his previously exemplary reputation.
But you clearly have another agenda re: Hamilton so I'll leave you to your delusions.
How did your theory that Hamilton would be scared to pass Rosberg after he deliberately 'didn't avoid' aka crashed into Hamilton work out?
I've read back a few of your gripes about Hamilton, about him saying he wanted it more than Rosberg, which is pretty much confirmed at this point. Playing the victim after Monaco again Rosberg actions since had pretty much proven he did that on purpose too.
But like I said there is obviously some other issue at play with you which is understandable as some people just hate him for no valid reason.
There is no way on earth any reasonable person can say someone who has won 10 races at least doesn't deserve to win the title compared to his less successful team mate.
But you clearly have another agenda re: Hamilton so I'll leave you to your delusions.
How did your theory that Hamilton would be scared to pass Rosberg after he deliberately 'didn't avoid' aka crashed into Hamilton work out?
I've read back a few of your gripes about Hamilton, about him saying he wanted it more than Rosberg, which is pretty much confirmed at this point. Playing the victim after Monaco again Rosberg actions since had pretty much proven he did that on purpose too.
But like I said there is obviously some other issue at play with you which is understandable as some people just hate him for no valid reason.
There is no way on earth any reasonable person can say someone who has won 10 races at least doesn't deserve to win the title compared to his less successful team mate.
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DuckThor Evil
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I want Hamilton to win, because he deserves it, he has gotten the results while Nico has made poor errors and shown weakness. Though Nico causing Hamilton to retire in the last race + the aftermath would certainly be interesting to watch and perhaps would convince the assholes to drop the idiotic double points from the last race thingy.
and perhaps would convince the assholes to drop the idiotic double points from the last race thingy.There is no other issue than i simply don´t think very much of Hamilton anymore. His attack on the spoiled rich boy was childish and tells more about Hamilton than Rosberg. His ridiculous suggestion that Monaco was on purpose, i guess if something like that had happened in the US it would be Rosberg's fault that Hamilton was out qualified. Lets not forget his "sennas book" comment as well.
But hey, usually racing is best when there is someone in the field that you would like to see beat.
Billy Idol
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Ham is the faster driver, thus he should win the championship as a logical consequence.
But he also showed that he is quite egoistic when being under pressure and that he uses the british press to put pressure on other drivers to give him more room...non-sportsmanship...and it is thus this season that I started to dislike him as a person (not as a driver, as he is really fast, especially in races, also ok in qualifications).
That is why I ultimately don't care anymore this season who wins.
I hope that next season the following happens:
- make tyres with much less grip to allow for more different racelines and a wider technical window such that more teams can successfully construct a fast car
- allow teams to have 3 cars/drivers instead of 2 to compensate for the missing smaller teams, who I really won't miss at all. But it would be great if we had 3 competing Bulls and Mercs next year!
But he also showed that he is quite egoistic when being under pressure and that he uses the british press to put pressure on other drivers to give him more room...non-sportsmanship...and it is thus this season that I started to dislike him as a person (not as a driver, as he is really fast, especially in races, also ok in qualifications).
That is why I ultimately don't care anymore this season who wins.
I hope that next season the following happens:
- make tyres with much less grip to allow for more different racelines and a wider technical window such that more teams can successfully construct a fast car
- allow teams to have 3 cars/drivers instead of 2 to compensate for the missing smaller teams, who I really won't miss at all. But it would be great if we had 3 competing Bulls and Mercs next year!
If only it were that simple.
The problem with introducing 3 car teams at the expense of the backmarkers is that it pushes back whoever is not in front. If we assume Mercedes, RedBull and Ferrari go with 3 cars per team, you will find that one of them will be not be battling for podiums anymore, but will find themselves up to 3 positions further behind than where they usually are. In fact, given that Williams has been doing rather well this year and might do again next year, a Ferrari might be battling for 9th position on average, rather than 5-7th. So no matter how many cars per team you introduce, one of the current teams will find itself further behind than what they are now and sooner or later, that will cause them to fall back further and into a position our current midfield and backmarker teams are finding themselves in.
To solve this, the talk about introducing 3 car teams has been that only 2 of the 3 cars will score contructor points and that the third driver will be a rookie - so the whole dream scenario of seeing Alonso battling Rosberg and Hamilton goes out the window, anyway. It also doesn't solve the problem that no team, especially the midfield teams, will want to be battling 2-3 places further down the grid because the stronger teams are even stronger and are taking a further spot away from the rest.
Introducing 3 car teams is opening pandoras box and it will ultimately lead to the failure of the sport, I'm sure of that. It's either 3 cars for all (too expensive) with a totally new point system or no at all. It's a stupid idea, that doesn't solve the root of the problem - it would only be extending and increasing it.
Why not just hand the championship to Red Bull then?
If you reduce mechanical grip, you increase the importance of aerodynamical grip.
Cheers
yes, and tires are standard across the whole field so increasing the reliance on mechanical grip will decrease the gap between the haves and have-nots.
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http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2014...ructure-explained-in-four-sentences/#comments
BTW - entry list for 2015 shows all 11 teams there, with Marussia going back to Manor F1 (Manor run the team) and Caterham as CF1 Caterham F1 Team.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2014...ructure-explained-in-four-sentences/#comments
BTW - entry list for 2015 shows all 11 teams there, with Marussia going back to Manor F1 (Manor run the team) and Caterham as CF1 Caterham F1 Team.
Billy Idol
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But we would still have three drivers fighting for the championship...right? This is much better than what we have now (1 driver dominating or like this season: two drivers battling).
Billy Idol
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I don't understand and think you are wrong.
Last year, we had at the beginning of the season the right tires. It was the Lotus team which had one of the strongest cars. It was especially the Bulls team (but also other big teams) that complained so hard until they changed the tires. From this point on, Vettel won everything making the rest of the season boring.
So no! Tires with less grip actually makes race condition similar to wet conditions and it doesn't seem that RB wins every wet race...
Not necessarily. The third driver may have been taking more points off one rather than another - likened to this season, probably Rosberg - and the more consistent winner may have already wrapped the title.
Billy Idol
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I am not sure about this. Last year before they changed the tires, Lotus was quite good and iirc Force India, which both are rather not-have teams imo.
Furthermore, how long will Newey be in the F1?
Last year Lotus was good at managing tires that degraded quickly, i.e. maintaining the grip they had in the first place, while Red Bull chewed through them too quickly because they had such a greater force on the tires through aero. The change mid-season made the tires more durable, but less grip, taking away Lotus' advantage and playing to the aero strength of RB.
As I said, best way to reduce to gap between all the cars is increase the tire grip and durability (as everyone as equal potential benefit with a single tire supplier) whilst lowering aero performance. The scenario you bring up from last year is actually a good example of this.
