Formula 1 - 2013 Season

With this one change, Vettel is crowned champion yet again.

Or maybe Hamilton.

I'm now of the opinion that both Ferrari and Lotus have gone backwards and are unable to make a proper challenge to Red Bull. Hamilton and Rosberg can however.

I'll jump on any chance to see anyone but Vettel win the WC. Right now the best chance of that is Hamilton because the Merc is the fastest car and continues to improve on tyre wear.
 
A recent spate of roadside explosions in Afghanistan has been traced to a Taliban mole fitting Pirelli tyres to allied vehicles. The mole, who is currently being 'questioned' in Guantanamo Bay, said "How was I to know I shouldn't put them on backwards?"
 
The teams swapped them because on side wears quicker than the other. After pirelli told them it was ok to do so.
 
I think Pirelli can further argue (maybe can't prove) that (some) teams were running lower tire pressures than it was recommended.
 
I think Pirelli can further argue (maybe can't prove) that (some) teams were running lower tire pressures than it was recommended.

The fact that there was no tyre failures after teams increased their tyre pressures mid-race supports this
 
I think it's amusing that RBR were calling 19-21 PSI as "extremely high pressure". They were running 16 PSI before mid-race as Kaotik says.
 
Gary Anderson, making friends and influencing people:

There is so much hot air in the paddock, from all the teams. They talk and talk and nothing happens.

But they need to react to this situation and simplify the rules. I have been involved in this sport for 41 years and I am fed up of listening to pure waffle from a bunch of people who are supposed to be intelligent.

I see McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh has said there is a "danger" of a boycott of the German Grand Prix this weekend. This is the sort of thing I'm talking about.

The best thing Whitmarsh can do is go and hide. Silverstone was another terrible race for McLaren and it's in their interests to get the rest of the season cancelled so they stop embarrassing themselves.

What is the point in saying that? It's ridiculous.

...

Meanwhile, the FIA needs to chamfer the kerbs so the tyres are not as under stress as they are now. That will eliminate the problem - and if they think that's not possible I have some mates who can come and do it for them in a few minutes.
:LOL:
 
More and more I question Pirelli's competence at making F1 race tires. I can't recall Bridgestone or even Michelin having such horrible problems. Although teams using Michelin tires did basically boycotted Indianapolis in 2005 due to tire concerns.

I'd prefer it if more than 1 tire maker was providing tires for F1 teams.

Regards,
SB
 
More and more I question Pirelli's competence at making F1 race tires. I can't recall Bridgestone or even Michelin having such horrible problems. Although teams using Michelin tires did basically boycotted Indianapolis in 2005 due to tire concerns.

I'd prefer it if more than 1 tire maker was providing tires for F1 teams.

Regards,
SB

That's a bit unfair, really. It's clearly not in the interest of Pirelli to create and develop tyres that wear the way they do. They did so, specifically, because it was their job to do so. Now, obviously, this years tyres are too extreme in that they are being run too close to the limit of the construction. That there is no real tyre testing doesn't help the situation, nor does it help that the kevlar belted tyres they wanted to switch to, were vetoed by a few teams (Force India, Lotus among others).

Also, having multiple tyre manufacturers only poses a bigger problem: What if the teams running tyre A will be at a big advantage over teams running tyre B? We do not want the tyre manufacturers to decide the championship. At least now, whatever tyres they chose to run on, it's the same for every team.
 
Bludd said:
The teams swapped them on purpose to gain an advantage.

The only advantage there is to swap the tyres around is tyre-wear. Like this, you can further optimize to get more balanced wear out of the tyres. If for instance, the left tyre wears more than the right one, you can swap them around to even it out.

What is interesting though, is that apparently Mercedes have been swapping tyres among different sets. Every team gets multiple sets of each compound, but because tyres are not all equal, they evaluate them on the track and put them together accoardingly.

They've got a point tbh.

I don't think so. If it is true that the tyres are mounted to the wheels by Pirelli (and the wheels can only be mounted one-way), then regardless which side you mount them on, the "inner-side" of the tyre will always be on the "inner" side. The only thing that changes is the direction in which the tyre turns.
 
I don't think so. If it is true that the tyres are mounted to the wheels by Pirelli (and the wheels can only be mounted one-way), then regardless which side you mount them on, the "inner-side" of the tyre will always be on the "inner" side. The only thing that changes is the direction in which the tyre turns.

I don't know if there is only one way the wheel can be mounted, and it isn't clear whether the tyres are made to be run in one direction specifically.

EDIT: http://digital.motorsportmonday.com/launch.aspx?eid=ff1cafce-73c0-401e-9d50-dc70d0a5b982&pnum=48
 
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