Formula 1 - 2013 Season
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Why are not some people getting it?
The tyres produce a few super laps and then die a horrible, mangled heat death.
The fact that the laps are fast for a few laps and then the driver has to go into cruise control is reflected in the fact that the race was one SLOWWWWWWW....
Which is fine with me.. go Forza Ferrari! I so hope RB and SV do not figure the tyres out and stomp the field during the latter part of the season but a certain genius called Newey may have something to say about that. The wee lil' fooker!
The tyres produce a few super laps and then die a horrible, mangled heat death.
The fact that the laps are fast for a few laps and then the driver has to go into cruise control is reflected in the fact that the race was one SLOWWWWWWW....
Which is fine with me.. go Forza Ferrari! I so hope RB and SV do not figure the tyres out and stomp the field during the latter part of the season but a certain genius called Newey may have something to say about that. The wee lil' fooker!
I just want a midpoint, how hard can that be? 2-3 stops, not 1 or 4. We just need a little harder tyres and it'll be back to racing without it being a walk in the park for Red Bull.
Like I said though, Spain is probably worst case. I just didn't enjoy that race and there has been a pretty huge backlash on the tyre situation since then. It's possibly worse here in the UK because people think it's ludicrous that a driver like Hamilton is getting paid millions to nurse his car for 60 laps.
Like I said though, Spain is probably worst case. I just didn't enjoy that race and there has been a pretty huge backlash on the tyre situation since then. It's possibly worse here in the UK because people think it's ludicrous that a driver like Hamilton is getting paid millions to nurse his car for 60 laps.
The commentry over the weekend was interesting to hear and tells a story in itself. During one onboard camera shot with one of the Ferraris DC commented something along the lines of "Ohh, thats horrible, he's having to to save all over the place. Thats not what you want to hear from an F1 car". Likewise, you had Hamilton's engineer saying "lift in xxx turn to save the tires". The comment from Brawn was that they got the front row by virtue of the drivers "saving" the tires in the first two sectors and to use the best of their life in the last sector.
To me the whole thing has just gone way too far and for me its now really spoiling the show. I'm pleased to hear Hembery come out and say "OK, that probably was a bit too far. We'll look to change back to 2 or 3 stops."
I'm also really curious why more isn't being made of the number of delaminations that have been experienced this year. There's a pretty serious safety concern there.
To me the whole thing has just gone way too far and for me its now really spoiling the show. I'm pleased to hear Hembery come out and say "OK, that probably was a bit too far. We'll look to change back to 2 or 3 stops."
I'm also really curious why more isn't being made of the number of delaminations that have been experienced this year. There's a pretty serious safety concern there.
There is nothing wrong with the tyres, people's understandings are terrible
Yeah, and that would mean no pitstops during the race whatsoever. Very smart idea
Er, the rules state you have to run both tyre types during the race, who has the understandings now
UniversalTruth
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Er, the rules state you have to run both tyre types during the race, who has the understandings now
It doesn't matter, the idea is still stupid. Why didn't those whining sissies cried last race but instead when that asshole vettel won, no one asked anything about tyres... What a bunch of losers Billy Idol
Legend
Yeah, it is so obvious that Red Bull and Vettel's german media sheeps are lousy losers that it hurts. Every 'F1' fan supporting this bs...booo!
I give Red Bull that: the constant whining about the tyres is a nice media stunt, as no one talks about the real problem, that their car this year drastically underperforms...especially not their money honcho, didi mateschitz, who believes all that shit about the tyres instead of making pressure on Adrian Newey et al.
DuckThor Evil
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Vettel is leading in points in case you guys haven't noticed lol. Tyres hurt Mercedes way more than they hurt Red Bull. I agree with Dave, at least in Barcelona it went too far. In some other races the situation hasn't been that bad.
DuckThor Evil
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The raw pace of the formula cars is faster this year. Last year Hamilton was the only one to get under 1.22 in Q3. Most cars improved their time 1-2 seconds compared to last year. Rosberg's pole time was over 2 seconds faster than his time last year. This speed doesn't exist in the races though, so they are cruising more.
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I think the objection is to 'overtakes' which consist of the driver in front being told "Let him past, you need to manage your tyres".
Pirelli to make F1 tyre changes 'in interests of the sport'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22523596
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22523596
DuckThor Evil
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I just want to quote this from the piece:
Exactly how I have viewed the situation. I haven't seen any massive crying from Red Bull, which many have been saying.
I think certain sections of Red Bull have been making more noise than anyone else (mostly because nobody else is really saying much) but I do agree they haven't been overboard with it.
I think this is the sensible move by Pirelli. Alonso shouldn't be 40 seconds ahead of Vettel in what are pretty evenly paced cars except the Ferrari is that much better on tyres. With some luck Mercedes will pull themselves into race contention with this move as well. It's just win-win as far as I can see. The current situation could easily have seen Alonso win every race from now till the end and that's not what the sport needs either.
I think this is the sensible move by Pirelli. Alonso shouldn't be 40 seconds ahead of Vettel in what are pretty evenly paced cars except the Ferrari is that much better on tyres. With some luck Mercedes will pull themselves into race contention with this move as well. It's just win-win as far as I can see. The current situation could easily have seen Alonso win every race from now till the end and that's not what the sport needs either.
