Billy Idol
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Vettel says Kartikeyan is the cause why he lost the race?!?
Formula 1 - 2012 Season
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DuckThor Evil
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Vettel got stuck behind Karthikeyan for few corners, that allowed Hamilton to get a bit closer to him than on other laps and Hamilton capitalized on it.
Very nice race indeed!
I was really rooting for Hamilton on this occasion as he really deserved to win one more time this year, even though I'm far from his fan.
Great job by Alonso to salvage that 3rd from his starting position
Also I don't agree with notion that Grosjean is not F1 material. He is very quick, and as many team managers will say, you can make quick driver drive sensibly but you can't make slow driver drive quickly.
I was really rooting for Hamilton on this occasion as he really deserved to win one more time this year, even though I'm far from his fan.
Great job by Alonso to salvage that 3rd from his starting position
Also I don't agree with notion that Grosjean is not F1 material. He is very quick, and as many team managers will say, you can make quick driver drive sensibly but you can't make slow driver drive quickly.
Ferrari deliberately broke the seal on massa's gearbox to give him a penalty and help alonso
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20389331
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20389331
Yes, they said it in an interview before race already, there was no question about it.
Limiting DRS use in qualifying to the race zones is the best news I've heard in terms of making qualifying more competitive and races more interesting. It makes sense to have qualifying pace approximate race pace as closely as possible.
I wonder if that would've tipped Hamilton to staying with McLaren.
I wonder if that would've tipped Hamilton to staying with McLaren.
DuckThor Evil
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Hamilton's overtake might be quite important for Alonso. Had Vettel won in Texas, he would have been crowned champion with zero points from Brazil, if Alonso would finish second or lower. Now if Vettel retires, Alonso just has to be on the podium. I don't feel like Alonso is fighting for the race wins at the moment, but he certainly seems to find himself on the podium quite often.
McLaren's Martin Whitmarsh tells that the reason Alonso left McLaren was simply the fact that he couldn't get "1st driver" role where things like Massas +5 penalty are done for him
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...ipe-Massa-says-McLarens-Martin-Whitmarsh.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mo...ipe-Massa-says-McLarens-Martin-Whitmarsh.html
Massa really can't complain - He's been poor for years and Ferrari have stuck by him.
Regardless of personal feelings over what is right and wrong, it was the right thing to do in terms of the championship. The Ferrari is a poor car and you can imagine how badly they'd be struggling if Alonso wasn't getting preferential treatment.
Regardless of personal feelings over what is right and wrong, it was the right thing to do in terms of the championship. The Ferrari is a poor car and you can imagine how badly they'd be struggling if Alonso wasn't getting preferential treatment.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/20403485
I have to say I thought Perez was the automatic choice just before McLaren signed him up, but since then he's been nothing short of woeful. Interesting point about the fitness test too.
Would Hulkenberg have been the better choice? Or somebody else?
I actually think Heikki Kovalainen is a much better driver than he was at McLaren first stint and I'd like to see him in a faster car again, although something as fast as the McLaren was never going to be likely. Too old maybe as well, but perhaps he'll end up at Force India if Sutil doesn't come back.
I can really see McLaren struggling next year if Perez can't step up to the plate. Feels like it's going to be another easy RBR season.
I have to say I thought Perez was the automatic choice just before McLaren signed him up, but since then he's been nothing short of woeful. Interesting point about the fitness test too.
Would Hulkenberg have been the better choice? Or somebody else?
I actually think Heikki Kovalainen is a much better driver than he was at McLaren first stint and I'd like to see him in a faster car again, although something as fast as the McLaren was never going to be likely. Too old maybe as well, but perhaps he'll end up at Force India if Sutil doesn't come back.
I can really see McLaren struggling next year if Perez can't step up to the plate. Feels like it's going to be another easy RBR season.
Massa was on pace for a podium finish throughout the weekend though. I understand the tactics of it, but feel bad for him.
I wonder if Ferrari dare pull a similar move in Brazil, Massa's home turf. Massa has always been fast at Interlagos, it is not unlikely he will qualify ahead of Alonso again.
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itsmydamnation
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the last 5 to 6 races massa really has got his mojo back and that is showing in the constructors championship.
hell it showing in my f1 fantasy league, mid season massa was worth 7 mill now he is worth 15 million, alonso is 21.5 .
hell it showing in my f1 fantasy league, mid season massa was worth 7 mill now he is worth 15 million, alonso is 21.5 .
the problem is that as long as alonso is still in the race, Massa can't win no matter how fast he is, he'd just get told to hold off everyone 'till Alonso can pass them and then let him through
That all depends on how well the season starts. If Massa can beat Alonso on pace then there's no reason for Ferrari to back Alonso instead. He may well be #2 driver but he can change that with wins.
Up till the last 5 or 6 races he's looked like a second slower than Alonso. Judging by the past few races, there's nothing actually wrong with his car or his raw pace - it's all been in his head.
Up till the last 5 or 6 races he's looked like a second slower than Alonso. Judging by the past few races, there's nothing actually wrong with his car or his raw pace - it's all been in his head.
Oh, there is a reason no matter how good pace Massa has. It's called Alonsos contract.
