Formula 1 - 2010 Season

I say again, how many successful overtakes has Vettel actually done?
 
Why is Webber taking all of this so well?
No comments from Vettel either sice the incident.

I think any driver in a team deserves more respect than that given so far by RBR to Webber. I hope he continues to dominate that twerp Vettel if only to just piss off Horner and company.

And Webber being told to go on a different mix of fuel and Hamilton told to save fuel whilst both their team mates have a go at them a lap later shows how competitive these guys are once racing. And... to me anyway, shows what arseholes they can be.

If the situations were reversed I think Webber and Hamilton would have done the same though.
 
I say again, how many successful overtakes has Vettel actually done?

I remember successful defence move during final laps of Australia GP 2009. He successfully putted himself and Kubica into retirement with almost exactly same move as most recent one!
 
I doubt the tyres or the fuel had much to do with anything. The driver in front still has the upper hand, being able to dictate pace and to drive in a defensive manner. With the aero this season, overtaking isn't easy unless the front driver welcomes the effort. In this case, Hamilton clearly wasn't anticipating Button to pull a move on him, hence the reason why he didn't defend until he noticed it (too late) that Button was doing an overtake.

As for pushing out - Hamilton had the inside line, just as Button did in the 2nd corner after his pass. Irregardless how close it was - from Hamiltons perspective, they were both saving fuel and not driving in a defensive manner and thus shouldn't have had to be in that position from the beginning. Given that they obviously get on well (Lewis and Jensen), I suspect he wasn't too pleased about being put in the situation where he had to retake his position in such a manner. His initial thoughts might have been also with the team who didn't inform him that Button was coming up, despite the "saving fuel" heads-up.

I like this analysis or theory, sounds very plausable.

I get the idea that Vettel expected it to be easier than it was but instead wasn't given as much room as he expected. Then he expected Mark to give in, but Mark didn't ease off and so when the rather annoyed Vettel thought he had just got past and jinked over to show his displeasure he wasn't quite as far in front as he thought he was.
 
Sounds plausible. I wonder what would have happened had Button kept the lead when the race finished.

I would imagine internally it would be fireworks at McLaren.
 
I wonder if that Hamilton overtake, was that done with Button instructed to give position back or not? It was an impressive move none the less.
 
McLaren have now said that it was Phil Phrew's opinion that Button would not pass.

Whatever, Lewis was pissed immediately after the race and maybe he'll trust his pit wall less. Who would put money on Lewis getting a new engineer?
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2010/06/new_evidence_for_hamiltons_dis.html#more

More news on the Hamilton and Button incident but also news that Christian Horner lied about Webber asking the team to get Vettel to back off. He was asking about the engine settings for Vettel as he had a greater straight line speed than him.
It is quite clear that the move on Webber was a engineered to hand Vettel victory of the Turkish GP however Webber did not get the memo as his race engineer was "preoccuppied" to pass on the message.

As to the Button/Hamilton tussle - bit of a non-story but shows that there is still some element of team orders.

However the real story still is Red Bull trying to engineer a race victory over one driver (equal points in the championship) should be investigated by the FIA.

Vettel and Red Bull lost a lot of fans and even with evidence to the contrary, Vettel still believes he did not make an error. If Vettel wants wins handed to him fans will remember only that about him, much like a certain other overrated German driver that cheated when he couldn't get his way.
 
What a ridiculous qualifying! That was some tense stuff, really great.

Hamilton pulled out a stunner, out-qualifying both Red Bulls. Webber P2, Vettel P3, Alonso in P4, Button P5 and Liuzzi finally out-qualified Sutil, maybe putting to rest the rumours about him being replaced.

Schumi fell out in Q2, out-qualified by both Williams'.

Watching Hamilton jumping out and pushing his car was priceless!
 
What a ridiculous qualifying! That was some tense stuff, really great.

Hamilton pulled out a stunner, out-qualifying both Red Bulls. Webber P2, Vettel P3, Alonso in P4, Button P5 and Liuzzi finally out-qualified Sutil, maybe putting to rest the rumours about him being replaced.

Schumi fell out in Q2, out-qualified by both Williams'.

Watching Hamilton jumping out and pushing his car was priceless!

Dammit! I missed it all because my mate blew up my PSU while gaming and I couldn't get power back in the house because I didn't have some shortcircuit breakerplugg thingy (dont know how you call it in english) so I had to go to the houseboss to see if he could fix power back into the house same way. Which he did but at that point I only saw Hamiton take pole :(

Bad day. No Quali and I had to spend 85 euro's on a new PSU :( Luckily I think the BCC will probably show all the interesting parts of quali in their pre race show in about a hour or so :)
 
Indeed good race.

Unfortunately I was forced to watch in the Romanian national channel. The commentators there were talking about some casino in Montreal during Alonso's overtaking Hamilton :???:
 
The Casino is the building in the middle of the circuit.

Anyway, mildly burned, pretty tiring weekend for us but great seeing it live though. And I can't recommend Kangaroo TV enough.
 
Alonso was held up twice in traffic, once when he was leading and doing fast laps before pitting and later when Button overtook.

Still, a brilliant race. Schumacher drove like a hooligan, Kubica did a very dangerous move into the pit lane and Red Bull gambled on tyres and it didn't work (or, McLarens and Alonso gambled and it did work).

Hamilton drove very well and Red Bull must be so pissed at all their missed opportunities in the earlier races.

Next we have Valencia where Ferrari will presumably have a big update, so maybe Alonso can do some magic at home.
 
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