Formula 1 - 2010 Season

A ruling can't be changed so it will probably stay the way it is now. If Merc really is right or wrong I dont know. To me it seems the race was a finish behind the safety car. Your not going to restart a race that only lasts for another 2 corners. Maybe it was a marshall error and they waved the wrong flags because the Ferrari drivers where told not to make any moves.
 
tongue_of_colicab said:
A ruling can't be changed so it will probably stay the way it is now. If Merc really is right or wrong I dont know. To me it seems the race was a finish behind the safety car. Your not going to restart a race that only lasts for another 2 corners. Maybe it was a marshall error and they waved the wrong flags because the Ferrari drivers where told not to make any moves.
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Anything can be changed on later date (they've added and removed penalties before, too)
 
Phil said:
Just rewatched the race again and thought I'd post this for added clarity:

  • Lap 78 Webber at the height of the casino - message "safety car in this lap" gets sent to broadcast
  • Safety car goes out, round information bar on top goes from yellow "Lap 78 SC" to normal "Lap 78".
  • Green flags beyond the white line.
  • Webber passes white line.

If this was intended to demonstrate that "the race will end whilst the safety car is deployed", they sure made an extremely poor effort. If anything, this just looks like the complete opposite, which further strengthens Brawns/Schumachers case and action.

It'll be interesting to see what the appeal against the decision will yield and although I think Mercedes has a very strong argument, I really doubt the FIA will do much about it. Having to change the result again will just make them look even more stupid and incompetent. :???:
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I think the purpose of 40.13 is to avoid having the safety car "winning" the race. It looks better to have the F1 cars go over the line alone, but still under the safety car.

The problem, IMHO, is that they should not have waved the green flags.
 
Okay, that's that then.

Let's see what will happen to the regs.
 
Based on the wording of article 40.13, do you think that they can apply 40.11 instead of 40.13 on Monaco-like situation? Basically using 40.11 if the track is clear should yield the same result as far as preventing the SC to take the chequered flag, the difference is that 40.11 still allow for some racing. It might not do good if everyone is aware about the rules, but I would imagine if someone in front is limping and the SC is out on track... if they use 40.13, the limping car is pretty much safe, but not so much if they use 40.11.
And I believe there are already a couple of overtaking maneuver that are successfully executed under this new safety care line stuff. It might be hard to do it in Monaco, but probably a wider track would yield a different result.

If I can change the rule, I would just add that 40.13 will only be used if they can't use 40.11 because the track still isn't clear.

And the rules don't say anything about SC covering the whole lap. I think it's more correct to say that the safety car is in effect from SC line to SC line. And in Monaco they are basically allow the racing to continue as per article 40.7 whether they intended to use 40.13 or not.

FWIW, based on the wording of the rules, I think Brawn interpretation is the correct one and this time he doesn't go against the spirit of the rule (unlike the DD one)... and race control/official is the one that is breaking the rules and because of their incompetence a driver must suffer quite a lot.
 
who re-watches F1 races these days? I am so sorry for you guys. The first viewing costs me quite a bit, can't imagine the second one...
 
dskneo said:
who re-watches F1 races these days? I am so sorry for you guys. The first viewing costs me quite a bit, can't imagine the second one...
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Those who want to see again some possible incidents people are debating about, and even those just the parts with incidents

...i hope
 
Bludd said:
Maybe he actually went to the race?
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Hmm. The mind boggles as to how you would re-watch that then. I suppose the the telemetry info would have to made completely bidirectional but the rebuilding of the crashed cars wouldn't be fun.
 
Simon F said:
Hmm. The mind boggles as to how you would re-watch that then. I suppose the the telemetry info would have to made completely bidirectional but the rebuilding of the crashed cars wouldn't be fun.
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Well, he said it would be expensive!
 
I was kinda hoping for one of the upstate New York locations - it would have been easy to make a nice little holiday out of that with a drive to Montreal and then drive down to the US GP in New York state a week or so later.
 
Maybe this one will fall through like the Donington venture.
 
Who knows. What I read of it they don't even have the land to build the complex on yet and if they want to host a race in 2012 that leaves very little time to get everything done.
 
Who cares where it is, it's yet another Tilke-landia, aka bad track with no chances for overtaking and safetyzones the size of the damn sahara desert
 
Kaotik said:
Who cares where it is, it's yet another Tilke-landia, aka bad track with no chances for overtaking and safetyzones the size of the damn sahara desert
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His tracks have no soul in them. Just lifeless crap.

"Tilke Engineering is also due to carry out work on Circuit de Catalunya, Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Nürburgring, Silverstone Circuit and Motorland Aragón."

This piece of shit better not ruin Monza :devilish::devilish::devilish:
 
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