Formula 1 - 2008 Season

FFS dont make me laugh. Since when did Hamilton became the rain master? because he and his big mouth keep blathering that others have no balls and he's as good as Schumacher is? because if I recall correctly last year he needed his ass to be hauled out of the gravel by a fucking crane to get back on track not to mention his little slip up in China.
 
This year's Ferrari is not as good as the McLaren in the rain.

Yeah, watching Spa in-car video is enough proof of that, Hamilton could drive almost as "easily" as on dry, but in Räikkönen's Ferrari it seemed like there was 3 pairs of hands there
 
I think maybe Silverstone is a better example. :D

Anyway, I think a wet race on Sunday is Alonso's and Renault's only chance for a good result.
 
Well, let's just give 'em F1 Powerboats instead, problem solved? :)
Seriously though, the water levels & rain have been insane there this weekend, yesterday ex-driver JJ Lehto commented that no tire will be safe on those water levels
 
FFS dont make me laugh. Since when did Hamilton became the rain master? because he and his big mouth keep blathering that others have no balls and he's as good as Schumacher is? because if I recall correctly last year he needed his ass to be hauled out of the gravel by a fucking crane to get back on track not to mention his little slip up in China.

Yes in the first wet race, and every other wet race since then he's won, you wonderful and marvelous being (Come on, let's make love)

Mod: I turned down the love level, it just was too much
 
Yes in the first wet race, and every other wet race since then he's won, you ...

He's no special on wets, everyone out there does mistakes on wet nowadays, including Hamilton.

On topic of Monza, interesting qualifying, Hamilton starting 15th to tomorrows race, Räikkönen 14th
 
Oh my, great performance by Vettel there, I haven't included him in my "top 5 drivers of today" for no reason
 
Vettel grabs record-breaking pole

Sebastian Vettel became the youngest driver in Formula One history to secure a pole position after finishing on top in a wet qualifying session for the Italian Grand Prix.

More to follow

Code:
Pos Driver        Team                     Q1         Q2         Q3     
 1. Vettel        Toro Rosso-Ferrari  (B)  1:35.464   1:35.837   1:37.555
 2. Kovalainen    McLaren-Mercedes    (B)  1:35.214   1:35.843   1:37.631
 3. Webber        Red Bull-Renault    (B)  1:36.001   1:36.306   1:38.117
 4. Bourdais      Toro Rosso-Ferrari  (B)  1:35.543   1:36.175   1:38.445
 5. Rosberg       Williams-Toyota     (B)  1:35.485   1:35.898   1:38.767
 6. Massa         Ferrari             (B)  1:35.536   1:36.676   1:38.894
 7. Trulli        Toyota              (B)  1:35.906   1:36.008   1:39.152
 8. Alonso        Renault             (B)  1:36.297   1:36.518   1:39.751
 9. Glock         Toyota              (B)  1:35.737   1:36.525   1:39.787
10. Heidfeld      BMW Sauber          (B)  1:35.709   1:36.626   1:39.906
11. Kubica        BMW Sauber          (B)  1:35.553   1:36.697
12. Fisichella    Force India-Ferrari (B)  1:36.280   1:36.698
13. Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault    (B)  1:36.485   1:37.284
14. Raikkonen     Ferrari             (B)  1:35.965   1:37.522
15. Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes    (B)  1:35.394   1:39.265
16. Barrichello   Honda               (B)  1:36.510
17. Piquet        Renault             (B)  1:36.630
18. Nakajima      Williams-Toyota     (B)  1:36.653
19. Button        Honda               (B)  1:37.006
20. Sutil         Force India-Ferrari (B)  1:37.417

All Timing Unofficial

News Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70550

Vettel ecstatic after 'unbelievable' pole

Sebastian Vettel was short for words to describe his feelings after securing a sensational pole position for the Italian Grand Prix.

Vettel, 21, became the youngest driver to clinch a Formula One pole position, beating previous record holder Fernando Alonso by over five months.

It was also Toro Rosso's maiden Formula One pole.

Vettel took full benefit from the treacherous condition to beat all his rivals and complete a perfect day for his Italian team.

"Unbelievable, incredible," said Vettel. "I was joking with my engineers that if it was wet we have to go for pole. The conditions were very difficult today. With water you never knew what to expect. At Ascari there was so much water and I lucky to not lose the car because of aquaplaning.

"I dreamed of being on polo. There are two Italian teams, most people know of the big one, but now people know of the smaller one - Scuderia Toro Rosso."

He added: "What can I say? It will take some time (to sink in) for sure. It was my dream one day to drive an F1 car and then my target is to fight for pole positions and race wins.

"It was a day I didn't expect. It feels fantastic, incredible, being part of F1, and fighting against those drivers with me is fantastic."

Vettel admitted he felt very confident with his car following some overnight changes.

"We had already had some wet practice on Friday and I didn't feel very comfortable," he said. "Overnight we did some changes, we did not know what to expect, how much rain there could be, we found just the right thing.

"After free practice today I was very happy with the car in the wet, with a very good balance. When you feel confident in these conditions then it is a huge advantage, that is the key. If you don't know how your car is you are not even trying."

Teammate Sebastien Bourdais completed an historic day for Toro Rosso by qualifying in fourth place.

News Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70551
 
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Congratulations to Vettel indeed, youngest winner ever if I didn't check wrong.

There's something really badly wrong with Ferrari on wets this season, both managed to pretty much just keep their positions through the race.
And more so, something is really strange with Kimi, no matter that he couldn't get up from the middlegroup, but he still managed t o drive fastest laps and in the end 2 secs faster than the rest
 
Vettel takes sensational maiden win

Sebastian Vettel took an astounding and historic victory for Toro Rosso in the Italian Grand Prix, after a commanding performance in wet conditions at Monza.

The 21-year-old German not only claimed his and his team's first ever victory, but became the youngest race winner in Formula 1 history.

Heikki Kovalainen (McLaren) and Robert Kubica (BMW) completed the podium ahead of Renault's Fernando Alonso, with title contenders Felipe Massa and Lewis Hamilton having to settle for sixth and seventh respectively.

Vettel simply dominated in the very wet early laps, with the event beginning with two laps behind the safety car before conditions were considered safe for racing.

The young German was nearly two seconds per lap faster than second-placed Kovalainen at first, steadily establishing a 10-second advantage in the first stint.

Although fellow two-stopper Kovalainen ran four laps further than Vettel before pitting for the first time, he could do little about the Toro Rosso's lead, matching its pace but rarely managing to close the gap.

Hamilton had made a muted start to the race, following Giancarlo Fisichella and Kimi Raikkonen in 14th at first while nursing his tyres on a heavy fuel load. But by lap nine Hamilton began to come alive, passing the Force India and Ferrari in quick succession and then commencing a spectacular charge through the field.

The Briton rapidly gained places thanks to both his own passing moves and the two stoppers rejoining behind him, and by half-distance the race looked like it would be a straight fight between the two-stopping Vettel and the one-stopping Hamilton, who ran first and second - just one second apart - on lap 26.

Track conditions were improving fast though, and despite many teams suggesting that another heavy rain shower was imminent, the forecast downpour failed to appear and the extreme wet tyres started to struggle.

The timing was ideal for those on extremely long first stint one stop plans - such as Kubica and Alonso - and for the two stoppers, who were all able to change to intermediates at their final scheduled stops.

But the change in weather ruined Hamilton's bid for a stunning victory, forcing him to make an unplanned second stop and putting him back to seventh.

That left Vettel unchallenged at the front, with Kovalainen promoted back up to second as the one stoppers had to return to the pits, albeit still 11 seconds behind the Toro Rosso, which continued to edge away and duly clinched a breathtaking and historic victory.

Kubica had a quiet first half of the race at the foot of the top ten, but his one pitstop was perfectly timed for the switch to intermediates, so he leapt up to third place, ahead of Alonso - whose strategy proved similarly ideal for the fluctuating conditions. Nick Heidfeld couldn't quite match Kubica, but took the second BMW to fifth.

Massa only managed sixth place, having spent much of the first stint stuck behind Nico Rosberg's Williams. He then rejoined in heavy traffic after his first stop, and was unable to make up the lost ground.

He did at least reduce Hamilton's world championship lead to a single point, as the McLaren driver clung on to seventh on fading intermediate tyres, resisting huge pressure from Red Bull's Mark Webber in the closing stages, the Australian having fallen back during the pit sequences and with a quick spin while dicing with Massa.

Raikkonen barely featured in the race, although he finally began gaining places and setting fastest laps as the track dried. It was too late to get into the points by then however, leaving him ninth.

The Toyotas looked set for a double points finish before losing ground when they had to make extra stops for intermediates, leaving Timo Glock and Jarno Trulli back in 11th and 13th, behind Renault's Nelson Piquet and split by Kazuki Nakajima (Williams), with Rosberg falling to 14th thanks to his extra stop for intermediates.

Remarkably, Fisichella was the only retirement, crashing at the Parabolica after breaking his front wing on the rear of David Coulthard's Red Bull and then sledging off the circuit when it folded under his car. Coulthard later damaged his own front wing in a late tangle with Nakajima.

While Vettel celebrated an astonishing victory, his Toro Rosso teammate Sebastien Bourdais had a disastrous afternoon - stalling on the grid and joining the race a lap down.

PROVISIONAL RACE RESULTS

The Italian Grand Prix
Autodromo di Monza, Italy;
53 laps; 306.720km;
Weather: Wet.

Classified:

Code:
Pos  Driver        Team                      Time
 1.  Vettel        Toro Rosso-Ferrari    (B)  1h26:47.000
 2.  Kovalainen    McLaren-Mercedes      (B)  +    12.512
 3.  Kubica        BMW Sauber            (B)  +    20.471
 4.  Alonso        Renault               (B)  +    23.903
 5.  Heidfeld      BMW Sauber            (B)  +    27.748
 6.  Massa         Ferrari               (B)  +    28.816
 7.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes      (B)  +    29.012
 8.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault      (B)  +    32.048
 9.  Raikkonen     Ferrari               (B)  +    39.468
10.  Piquet        Renault               (B)  +    54.445
11.  Glock         Toyota                (B)  +    58.888
12.  Nakajima      Williams-Toyota       (B)  +  1:02.015
13.  Trulli        Toyota                (B)  +  1:05.954
14.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota       (B)  +  1:08.635
15.  Button        Honda                 (B)  +  1:13.370
16.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault      (B)  +     1 lap
17.  Barrichello   Honda                 (B)  +     1 lap
18.  Bourdais      Toro Rosso-Ferrari    (B)  +     1 lap
19.  Sutil         Force India-Ferrari   (B)  +    2 laps

Fastest lap: Raikkonen, 1:28.047

Not classified/retirements:

Driver        Team                      On lap
Fisichella    Force India-Ferrari   (B)    12


World Championship standings, round 14:

Code:
Drivers:                    Constructors:             
 1.  Hamilton      78        1.  Ferrari               134
 2.  Massa         77        2.  McLaren-Mercedes      129
 3.  Kubica        64        3.  BMW Sauber            117
 4.  Raikkonen     57        4.  Renault                41
 5.  Heidfeld      53        5.  Toyota                 41
 6.  Kovalainen    51        6.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari     27
 7.  Alonso        28        7.  Red Bull-Renault       26
 8.  Trulli        26        8.  Williams-Toyota        17
 9.  Vettel        23        9.  Honda                  14
10.  Webber        20       
11.  Glock         15       
12.  Piquet        13       
13.  Barrichello   11       
14.  Rosberg        9       
15.  Nakajima       8       
16.  Coulthard      6       
17.  Bourdais       4       
18.  Button         3

All timing unofficial

News Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70609
 
Didn't have the time to actually put some effort to this, but who cares
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