Formula 1 - 2008 Season

Ha ha! I never knew Max Mosley was Oswald's son. Obviously inherited one or two little foibles from his father and not just fascistic tendencies!
 
Tongue: chassis and such is easy, I was more about simulating combustion in the cylinder and whatever more complicated sort of stuff like that. Or say a Hardware-in-the-loop testbed, you'll never see one running full-blown exact simulation - not enough flops for that and noone will buy a supercomputer solely for that sort of stuff.
 
They were talking about "bringing the sport into disrepute" a year ago when Raikkonen was getting pissed with his mates and falling out of nightclubs drunk. That's pretty normal compared to Mosely's Nazi hooker S&M orgy. Yeah, your private life is your private life, but when it becomes public, it reflects on your working life too, and the FIA and the sport's sponsors might not wish to be connected to nazi hooker S&M orgies.

Why would it? I mean, I understand why it might does for some, but why really? If he is doing a good job, than why do you care if he likes to have sex with nazi hookers? couldnt care less if he's good at his job. It not like the opposite helps, being bad at your job but have normal sex so its ok. People should do whatever they want in their private life as long as they dont bother others with it.

Tongue: chassis and such is easy, I was more about simulating combustion in the cylinder and whatever more complicated sort of stuff like that. Or say a Hardware-in-the-loop testbed, you'll never see one running full-blown exact simulation - not enough flops for that and noone will buy a supercomputer solely for that sort of stuff.

Aha. He was only talking about the aero, they are using the FXX engine so obviously no need to test that and stuff. So CFD would already be a good alternative for lets say a windtunnel?
 
Why would it? I mean, I understand why it might does for some, but why really? If he is doing a good job, than why do you care if he likes to have sex with nazi hookers? couldnt care less if he's good at his job. It not like the opposite helps, being bad at your job but have normal sex so its ok. People should do whatever they want in their private life as long as they dont bother others with it.

Problem it's all about reputation, and it rubs off. Those "others" might be sponsors, might be fans. If you're trying to promote a marque brand like BMW, Renault, Vodaphone, etc, you don't want everyone to associate your brand with "that guy caught having nazi hooker S&M orgies" instead of the height of technical motor racing excellence.

And I think he's been doing an awful job. If Raikkonen can be criticised for a drunken night out because he's a leading driver, why does the president of the FIA get a free pass?
 
Especially since he was so vocal in the Hamilton racist row in Spain earlier this year. He fantasizes about Nazism privately but speaks out against racism publicly?

Sounds like what Larry Craig, Eliot Spitzer and that other senator/congressman (the one who wanted to have sex with underage pages) did. They were very vocal against the very things they did in their private lives.
 
Problem it's all about reputation, and it rubs off. Those "others" might be sponsors, might be fans. If you're trying to promote a marque brand like BMW, Renault, Vodaphone, etc, you don't want everyone to associate your brand with "that guy caught having nazi hooker S&M orgies" instead of the height of technical motor racing excellence.

And I think he's been doing an awful job. If Raikkonen can be criticised for a drunken night out because he's a leading driver, why does the president of the FIA get a free pass?

So what? BMW made planes that bombed europe, nobody cant be botherd with that. Seriously, I think its overreacting. If somebody offers a product you want (because you think its good, its stylish, good value or whatever), would you care the guy likes to have hookers dressed up like nazi's in his spare time? I wouldnt. I just want a good product, dont care who made it. If people really cared about such things nobody would be buying stuff made in China anymore. But they still do because they dont give a crap.

Besides, how long do things like this stay hot? How long did the hamilton ''racist'' issue last? I dont think that even lasted for a week outside the UK. This? could you still be botherd by it next week?
 
I think people would just like to see the back of the man that is seemingly trying to ruin F1.

Any excuse to get rid of him is OK in my book.
 
so do you think people who like kinky sex shouldnt have jobs ?

Of course they should, but people having kinky sex with hookers dressed like nazis aren't qualified for such roles as head of FIA where you're always in the spotlight
 
Massa fastest as Hamilton crashes out

Ferrari continued to dominate Bahrain Grand Prix practice in the second session, with Felipe Massa again leading teammate Kimi Raikkonen in a one-two.

The Brazilian ended the afternoon almost one second quicker than Raikkonen, having lapped in 1:31.420 in the final seconds.

McLaren finished third and fourth, but Lewis Hamilton ended the afternoon in the barriers.

The Briton lost control of his car on the exit of Turn 7 and spun across the track, hitting the opposite barriers side-on and causing heavy damage to the right-hand side of the car. Hamilton was unharmed in the incident.

Raikkonen and Hamilton swapped the top spot between them in the early stages, before Massa took control with a 1:32.722 lap, 0.127 seconds quicker than Hamilton's previous best.

Bar a few minutes when Raikkonen edged ahead with his final run, Massa remained on top for the rest of the afternoon. He improved his time to 1:32.393 on soft tyres, which Raikkonen beat by 0.066 seconds with three minutes remaining.

But Massa responded in emphatic style, going fastest by 0.907 seconds with his last lap of the day.

Heikki Kovalainen had languished near the foot of the top ten in the first half of the session, then improved to third later on. He was 0.095 seconds quicker then teammate Hamilton even before the latter's accident.

BMW's Robert Kubica finished the session in fifth place, 1.4 seconds off the pace but only 0.5 seconds behind Raikkonen.

Williams continued their strong morning form with Nico Rosberg and Kazuki Nakajima taking sixth and eighth respectively, split by Red Bull driver David Coulthard.

Sebastien Bourdais was as high as second for Toro Rosso early in the session. He was eventually pushed back to ninth, ahead of Renault's Nelson Piquet, who was two places ahead of teammate Fernando Alonso.

Code:
Pos  Driver        Team                     Time               Laps
 1.  Massa         Ferrari             (B)  1:31.420            30
 2.  Raikkonen     Ferrari             (B)  1:32.327  + 0.907   30
 3.  Kovalainen    McLaren-Mercedes    (B)  1:32.752  + 1.332   30
 4.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes    (B)  1:32.847  + 1.427   26
 5.  Kubica        BMW Sauber          (B)  1:32.915  + 1.495   29
 6.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota     (B)  1:33.022  + 1.602   34
 7.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault    (B)  1:33.048  + 1.628   27
 8.  Nakajima      Williams-Toyota     (B)  1:33.098  + 1.678   33
 9.  Bourdais      Toro Rosso-Ferrari  (B)  1:33.197  + 1.777   37
10.  Piquet        Renault             (B)  1:33.247  + 1.827   37
11.  Button        Honda               (B)  1:33.710  + 2.290   33
12.  Alonso        Renault             (B)  1:33.755  + 2.335   26
13.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault    (B)  1:33.782  + 2.362   34
14.  Trulli        Toyota              (B)  1:33.822  + 2.402   38
15.  Glock         Toyota              (B)  1:33.856  + 2.436   30
16.  Barrichello   Honda               (B)  1:33.966  + 2.546   35
17.  Heidfeld      BMW Sauber          (B)  1:34.023  + 2.603   36
18.  Fisichella    Force India-Ferrari (B)  1:34.388  + 2.968   35
19.  Sutil         Force India-Ferrari (B)  1:34.405  + 2.985   34
20.  Vettel        Toro Rosso-Ferrari  (B)  1:34.787  + 3.367   30
21.  Sato          Super Aguri-Honda   (B)  1:35.288  + 3.868   24
22.  Davidson      Super Aguri-Honda   (B)  1:35.712  + 4.292   25

News Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66325
 
“Lawyers representing Mr Mosley have today served proceedings against the News of the World claiming unlimited damages,” an FIA spokesman said in a statement on Friday.
my bold
Source: http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=42223

Unlimited damages? Is that a legal term? Sounds ... high. :D

Notice he is suing for breach of privacy and not libel. I don't think he really has a case since he is in such a high-profile position and I think it is in the publics interest to know if he harbors Nazi sympathies or even fantasies. Notice some of the hookers in the video had on prisoner garb, making me think of concentration camps.

I hope he'll step down.
 
He's not denying that some activity took place, he's denying the subcontext of the allegations. Apparently part of his case contests that he was speaking in German because two the his "entertainers" were German speakers!
 
He was speaking like Basil Fawlty when Basil hurt his head and had German visitors at Fawlty Towers. :D
 
That Hamilton is bound to hurt himself, quite badly, I'm afraid.
Look at his latest crash in the practice, and same last year, when ever he crashes, he doesn't let go of the wheel at all, every driver has said that if you're going to crash, first thing you do is let go of the steering wheel, since if you don't, it can hit your hands really, really hard
 
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