Formula 1 - 2008 Season

[tongue_of_colicab]

First pole position ever :') (funny funny)

 

[Bludd]

It was a thrilling qualifier. Mario Theissen was grinning from ear to ear.

Kubica beat Massa and that is awesome in my book. Well done, Robert!

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Wow .. just read about it. Simply stunning

Maiden F1 pole for Kubica, BMW in Bahrain

Robert Kubica took his and BMW Sauber's first Formula One pole position with a stunning lap in qualifying for the Bahrain Grand Prix.

The Pole beat favourite Felipe Massa (Ferrari), who had dominated Friday practice, by 0.027 seconds.

McLaren's Lewis Hamilton and Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen will share the second row.

Massa held provisional pole after the first flying laps of Q3, but only by 0.011 seconds over Kubica.

Hamilton then briefly beat both when he lapped in 1:33.292 on his second run, but the McLaren driver did not stay on top for long, as Kubica responded with a 1:33.096.

Although Massa's second lap was sufficient to reclaim the front row position from Hamilton, his time of 1:33.123 was not enough to beat the BMW driver to pole.

World champion Raikkonen could only manage fourth, three tenths of a second slower than teammate Massa. Heikki Kovalainen completed the top five in the second McLaren.

Kubica's teammate Nick Heidfeld was 0.7 seconds slower than the pole-sitter in sixth place for BMW.

Jarno Trulli (Toyota) and Nico Rosberg (Williams) will share the fourth row, Trulli having been second fastest in the first qualifying segment.

Jenson Button got Honda into the top ten for the first time this season, edging up to 10th in the final moments of Q2 and then securing ninth place, just ahead of Renault's Fernando Alonso. Button's teammate Rubens Barrichello will start 12th.

Red Bull Racing had a disappointing session. While Mark Webber missed out on a top ten spot by 0.009 seconds and will start 11th, while teammate David Coulthard blamed a straightforward lack of speed for his Q1 elimination after ending up 17th on the grid. He was 0.018 seconds away from making it through to Q2.

Timo Glock (Toyota), Nelson Piquet (Renault) and Kazuki Nakajima (Williams) could not match their respective teammates Trulli, Alonso and Rosberg, and were knocked out in Q2.

While Glock briefly made it up to ninth before other drivers' improvements pushed him back to 13th, Piquet and Nakajima's best efforts were only good enough for 14th and 16th.

Sebastien Bourdais out-qualified Toro Rosso teammate Sebastian Vettel for the first time and also made his first Q2 appearance. The Frenchman will start 15th, with Vettel only managing 19th.

Force India again failed to make it beyond Q1. Giancarlo Fisichella moved up to 18th with a last-gasp effort after abandoning his last flying lap following an error, while teammate Adrian Sutil was 20th.

The Super Aguris will fill the back row, with Anthony Davidson ahead of Takuma Sato for the first time this season.

The Japanese driver caused a brief red flag after spinning on the exit of the final corner, damaging his car's rear wing and suspension on the pit entry barrier.

Pos  Driver       Team                 Q1        Q2        Q3       Laps
 1.  Kubica       BMW Sauber           1:32.893  1:31.745  1:33.096  12
 2.  Massa        Ferrari              1:31.937  1:31.188  1:33.123  12
 3.  Hamilton     McLaren-Mercedes     1:32.750  1:31.922  1:33.292  13
 4.  Raikkonen    Ferrari              1:32.652  1:31.933  1:33.418  12
 5.  Kovalainen   McLaren-Mercedes     1:33.057  1:31.718  1:33.488  12
 6.  Heidfeld     BMW Sauber           1:33.137  1:31.909  1:33.737  15
 7.  Trulli       Toyota               1:32.493  1:32.159  1:33.994  19
 8.  Rosberg      Williams-Toyota      1:32.903  1:32.185  1:34.015  22
 9.  Button       Honda                1:32.793  1:32.362  1:35.057  17
10.  Alonso       Renault              1:32.947  1:32.345  1:35.115  17
11.  Webber       Red Bull-Renault     1:33.194  1:32.371            12
12.  Barrichello  Honda                1:32.944  1:32.508            12
13.  Glock        Toyota               1:32.800  1:32.528            15
14.  Piquet       Renault              1:32.975  1:32.790            15
15.  Bourdais     Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1:33.415  1:32.915            15
16.  Nakajima     Williams-Toyota      1:33.386  1:32.943            15
17.  Coulthard    Red Bull-Renault     1:33.433                       7
18.  Fisichella   Force India-Ferrari  1:33.501                       5
19.  Vettel       Toro Rosso-Ferrari   1:33.562                       9
20.  Sutil        Force India-Ferrari  1:33.845                       6
21.  Davidson     Super Aguri-Honda    1:34.140                       9
22.  Sato         Super Aguri-Honda    1:35.725                       5

News Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66373

 

[Davros]

"The Japanese driver caused a brief red flag after spinning on the exit of the final corner, damaging his car's rear wing and suspension on the pit entry barrier."

Its good to see the old Takuma back

 

[chavvdarrr]

who wants to bet that Kimi has more fuel than Massa, who has more fuel than Kubica and Heidfeid, also has more fuel?
I think both Ferrari and BMW are going for "sandwitch" - one car heavier, another one lighter.
Hopefully will see good show

 

[Kaotik]

LOOOL at Hamilton, bad start and now crashes to one driving in front of him

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

LOOOL at Hamilton, bad start and now crashes to one driving in front of him

Alonso brake-testing him out of the corner is what everyone's suggesting. If the telemetry show it, Alonso will be in big trouble.

Still Hamilton was only there because of his terrible, terrible start.

 

[Kaotik]

Alonso brake-testing him out of the corner is what everyone's suggesting. If the telemetry show it, Alonso will be in big trouble.

Still Hamilton was only there because of his terrible, terrible start.

Brake-testing out of corner? That thing happenend in the middle of damn straight
I think that the "everyone" are 100% britts, no offense

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Brake-testing out of corner? That thing happenend in the middle of damn straight
I think that the "everyone" are 100% britts, no offense

You're wrong. It was during acceleration out of corners. Everyone was accelerating out of the corner, but Alonso suddenly stopped accelerating. and Hamilton didn't get around him.

I think that "someone" are 100% anti-brit, no offence. Why else would you:

LOOOL at Hamilton, bad start and now crashes to one driving in front of him

 

[Kaotik]

Just anti-"Hamilton-is-the-new-senna-schumacher-best-driver-ever" trend, which is plain ridicilous due having great first season in a winner car, sure he's good, but there's no reason to say he's THAT good (yet anyway)

 

[chavvdarrr]

if Alonso did not brake, Hamilton is guilty, no?
So either Alonso is punished for braking, or no one gets penalty, "because Hamilton is the rising star".

 

[Kaotik]

if Alonso did not brake, Hamilton is guilty, no?
So either Alonso is punished for braking, or no one gets penalty, "because Hamilton is the rising star".

Indeed, heck, even though they did give hamilton and kovalainen penalty in the last qualifying, it was half of what it should have been (the normal penalty in qualifying for everything is either -10 spots or even starting from the pits after everyone)

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Just anti-"Hamilton-is-the-new-senna-schumacher-best-driver-ever" trend, which is plain ridicilous due having great first season in a winner car, sure he's good, but there's no reason to say he's THAT good (yet anyway)

Was that the trend I was showing when I said Hamilton had a "terrible, terrible start"? I guess the anti-Hamilton brigade will come out of the woodwork now.

Just before the accident, the UK commentators were saying "If I was Lewis Hamilton, the last place I'd want to be right now is close to Alonso", and then as it happened they and the pit crews were talking "brake test". It's got nothing to do with being a Hamilton fan (which I'm not particularly), it's about conjecture of what may have happened. Or is Alonso never allowed to be wrong or Hamilton never allowed to be in the right? Seems like it's your own prejudices showing there.

It's not like Alonso hasn't already shown himself to be capable of spur-of-the-moment petulant actions that disadvantage himself, and those around him.

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

if Alonso did not brake, Hamilton is guilty, no?
So either Alonso is punished for braking, or no one gets penalty, "because Hamilton is the rising star".

You don't have to brake at those kinds of speeds or acceleration - you just have to take your foot off the gas.

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Indeed, heck, even though they did give hamilton and kovalainen penalty in the last qualifying, it was half of what it should have been (the normal penalty in qualifying for everything is either -10 spots or even starting from the pits after everyone)

IIRC, the penalities have changed this year. It's -5 places.

 

[thehulk]

Hooray for the Ferrari 1-2
Yay for BMW 3-4

 

[tongue_of_colicab]

Alonso brake-testing him out of the corner is what everyone's suggesting. If the telemetry show it, Alonso will be in big trouble.

Still Hamilton was only there because of his terrible, terrible start.

Everyone. You know what im suggesting? that mr. ''golden boy'' just cant handle the pressure if he doesnt have a empty track infront of him

 

[Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.]

Everyone. You know what im suggesting? that mr. ''golden boy'' just cant handle the pressure if he doesnt have a empty track infront of him

As in the ex-F1 drivers on the UK commentary team, the Maclaren team, etc. You only have to look at it to see what it looks like. But if you're too blinded by your Hamilton Hate, you won't see much of anything.

It's disappointing to me that it seems that Maclaren won't protest so the Stewards won't look at the telemetry. Maclaren see no benefit to it as they can't get any points out of it, but without knowing what happened, Alonso neither gets punished nor exonerated. If Maclaren really feel they were wronged, they should do something about it.

Otherwise it was a pretty good race. Massa showed he still has what it takes, BMW shows they are now reaching into the top teams, Maclaren shows that their cars are having traction/tyre issues without traction control. Honda is making strides too.

 

[Bludd]

Damn, Massa didn't spin out.

BMW is now at the top of the constructor's championship.

I think Hamilton's crash with Alonso was borne of frustration and not of Alonso brake-testing him. Are the stewards investigating? Have McLaren complained? Have Renault complained?

 

[Kaotik]

Bouncing Zabaglione Bros., more like you're blinded with the dreaded fanboyism, IMO
Heck, the oh-so-great driver doesn't even seem to know the basic things like "when you crash, you let go of the wheel so it won't break your hands", he's a good and fast driver, but has much to learn, especially on the nerve side