Final Fantasy XIII [PS3, X360]

[ShadowRunner]

Edge aren't just harsh reviewers, which by itself woudln't be a problem. They are biased reviewers:

God of War 3: 94 average, Edge 8/10, lowest score by far
Kilzone 2: 91 Average, Edge 70, lowest score, except 1 other review
Ratchet ACIT: 87 Average, Edge 70, lowest score
Resistance 2: 87 Average, Edge 60, lowest score
MGS4: 94 Average, Edge 80, lowest score

And to prove they are not just harsh reviewers:

Halo ODST: 83 Average, Edge 90
Halo 3: 94 Average, Edge 100
Forza 3: 92 Average, Edge 90
Fable 2: 89 Average, Edge 90
Gears of War 2: 93 Average, Edge 90

I rest my case, it's crystal clear what they are.

Interesting observation that i hadnt noticed, probably shouldnt be discussed further in this thread though. May be worth creating a new one for discussin bias in press as long as it can be discussed maturely (which i doubt). As a casual observation it may seem like the metacritic ratings for FFXIII bring into question an industry wide bias against PS3, though discussing it more deeply is needed to prove/disprove it, if you ever can.

 

[BoardBonobo]

Interesting observation that i hadnt noticed, probably shouldnt be discussed further in this thread though. May be worth creating a new one for discussin bias in press as long as it can be discussed maturely (which i doubt). As a casual observation it may seem like the metacritic ratings for FFXIII bring into question an industry wide bias against PS3, though discussing it more deeply is needed to prove/disprove it, if you ever can.

Debating how far MS dollars have twisted the industry is like flogging a dead horse. It won't get you anywhere but will create a stink!

 

[patsu]

I want to say, "Odin s*cks !!!". Finally beat him T_T

 

[the ignoramus]

Edge aren't just harsh reviewers, which by itself woudln't be a problem. They are biased reviewers:

God of War 3: 94 average, Edge 80 (-14)
Heavy Rain: 87 average, Edge 70 (-17)
Uncharted 2: 96 average, Edge 90 (-6)
Uncharted Drake's fortune: 88 average, Edge 80 (-8)
Killzone 2: 91 Average, Edge 70 (-21)
Ratchet ACIT: 87 Average, Edge 70 (-17)
Ratchet TOD: 89 Average, Edge 80 (-9)
Resistance 2: 87 Average, Edge 60 (-27)
Resistance FOM: 86 Average, Edge 70 (-16)
MGS4: 94 Average, Edge 80 (-14)
GT5P: 80 average, Edge 70 (-10)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2: 83 average, Edge 70 (-13)

Average: 14.3 points lower than Metacritic

And to prove they are not just harsh reviewers:

Halo ODST: 83 Average, Edge 90 (+7)
Halo 3: 94 Average, Edge 100 (+6)
Forza 3: 92 Average, Edge 90 (-2)
Forza 2: 90 Average, Edge 90 (0)
Fable 2: 89 Average, Edge 90 (+1)
Gears of War 2: 93 Average, Edge 90 (-3)
PGR4: 85 Average, Edge 90 (+5)
Ace Combat 6: 80 Average, Edge 80 (0)
Crackdown: 83 Average, Edge 80 (-3)
L4D: 89 Average, Edge 90 (+1)
L4D2: 89 Average, Edge 90 (+1)
Ninja Gaiden 2: 81 Average, Edge 80(-1)

Average: 1.1 point higher than Metacritic

I rest my case, it's crystal clear what they are.

Yeah, I just did a quick comparison of my own, using similar exclusives within the same genre:Edge are full of it

 

[rabidrabbit]

I want to say, "Odin s*cks !!!". Finally beat him T_T

Odin took some time to beat, and so early in the game. Wonder how hard the bosses get towards the end
Well, he wasn't hard when you figured ot the correct tactics and what Paradigms to use. Figuring that out was fun! In FF12 that was lost somewhere and the boss battles were a bit boring (at least as far as I played it)

 

[patsu]

I must have died 20+ times. Repeated quite a few attempts after I watched YouTube. XD

The difficulty was steep alright. It's like smashing into a wall at 80mph. Then it went back to normal again. But at least it's rewarding. ;-)

 

[homerdog]

Guys, if after the first couple of hours you decide to sell all your "components" because they have no use, DON'T! I did about half an hour before the weapon upgrade tutorial

 

[patsu]

Ahah ! I used up all my useful components right before the Odin fight (after failing one too many times). Upgraded

Spoiler

my lightning resistance rings, and Lightning's weapon

.

 

[RobertR1]

Edge aren't just harsh reviewers, which by itself woudln't be a problem. They are biased reviewers:

God of War 3: 94 average, Edge 80 (-14)
Heavy Rain: 87 average, Edge 70 (-17)
Uncharted 2: 96 average, Edge 90 (-6)
Uncharted Drake's fortune: 88 average, Edge 80 (-8)
Killzone 2: 91 Average, Edge 70 (-21)
Ratchet ACIT: 87 Average, Edge 70 (-17)
Ratchet TOD: 89 Average, Edge 80 (-9)
Resistance 2: 87 Average, Edge 60 (-27)
Resistance FOM: 86 Average, Edge 70 (-16)
MGS4: 94 Average, Edge 80 (-14)
GT5P: 80 average, Edge 70 (-10)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2: 83 average, Edge 70 (-13)
Motorstorm PR: 82 Average, Edge 70

Average: 14.3 points lower than Metacritic

And to prove they are not just harsh reviewers:

Halo ODST: 83 Average, Edge 90 (+7)
Halo 3: 94 Average, Edge 100 (+6)
Forza 3: 92 Average, Edge 90 (-2)
Forza 2: 90 Average, Edge 90 (0)
Fable 2: 89 Average, Edge 90 (+1)
Gears of War 2: 93 Average, Edge 90 (-3)
PGR3: 88 Average, Edge 90 (+2)
PGR4: 85 Average, Edge 90 (+5)
Ace Combat 6: 80 Average, Edge 80 (0)
Crackdown: 83 Average, Edge 80 (-3)
L4D: 89 Average, Edge 90 (+1)
L4D2: 89 Average, Edge 90 (+1)
Ninja Gaiden 2: 81 Average, Edge 80(-1)

Average: 1.1 point higher than Metacritic

I rest my case, it's crystal clear what they are.

Here's some more Tin Foil for your Hat. GOW3 8. OH NOES!

 

[patsu]

You're just reinforcing their beliefs. Who cares if Edge is biased. Are they very important ? If they give DragonAge 5/10, then may be they don't like traditional RPGs ? If so, their scores won't matter to RPG lovers.

 

[corduroygt]

Here's some more Tin Foil for your Hat. GOW3 8. OH NOES!

You obviously didn't read my post since gow3 is included. Also name calling is a weak response to statistical proof.

 

[function]

Edge reward strong online / mulitplayer features and innovation. If a game features both (like Halo 3 / ODST) is does particularly well.

Most mags are happy to throw out very high marks to solid but unoriginal games. In the edge review FF13 didn't even come across as being particularly solid, and compared badly to the prequels. Have any of Edge's remarks about FF13 turned out to be untrue?

 

[corduroygt]

Edge reward strong online / mulitplayer features and innovation. If a game features both (like Halo 3 / ODST) is does particularly well.

Exactly how is ODST innovative over Halo 3? How is Gears 2 innovative over Gears, not to mention being worse online? EDGE has an agenda and it's transparent. It's just as useless as relying on vgchartz for sales numbers.

 

[RobertR1]

You obviously didn't read my post since gow3 is included. Also name calling is a weak response to statistical proof.

So what happens to Edge bias when they score with or above Metacritic?

LBP:
Edge 100 Meta 95

Demonsouls:
Edge 90 Meta 89


With the backlash against MGS4, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, pehaps Edge were close to reality about the actual quality of those games than the magazines who either bought into the hype or give up high numbers to appease the rabid fanbase.

 

[Billy Idol]

With the backlash against MGS4, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, pehaps Edge were close to reality about the actual quality of those games than the magazines who either bought into the hype or give up high numbers to appease the rabid fanbase.

I think you are better than that!

 

[nightshade]

Someone mentioned that the game has God Rays.
So I wanna ask is it real God Rays aka volumetric lighting or just fake effects as it is in most other games...??

 

[warb]

Edge aren't just harsh reviewers, which by itself woudln't be a problem. They are biased reviewers:

God of War 3: 94 average, Edge 80 (-14)
Heavy Rain: 87 average, Edge 70 (-17)
Uncharted 2: 96 average, Edge 90 (-6)
Uncharted Drake's fortune: 88 average, Edge 80 (-8)
Killzone 2: 91 Average, Edge 70 (-21)
Ratchet ACIT: 87 Average, Edge 70 (-17)
Ratchet TOD: 89 Average, Edge 80 (-9)
Resistance 2: 87 Average, Edge 60 (-27)
Resistance FOM: 86 Average, Edge 70 (-16)
MGS4: 94 Average, Edge 80 (-14)
GT5P: 80 average, Edge 70 (-10)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2: 83 average, Edge 70 (-13)
Motorstorm PR: 82 Average, Edge 70

Average: 14.3 points lower than Metacritic

And to prove they are not just harsh reviewers:

Halo ODST: 83 Average, Edge 90 (+7)
Halo 3: 94 Average, Edge 100 (+6)
Forza 3: 92 Average, Edge 90 (-2)
Forza 2: 90 Average, Edge 90 (0)
Fable 2: 89 Average, Edge 90 (+1)
Gears of War 2: 93 Average, Edge 90 (-3)
PGR3: 88 Average, Edge 90 (+2)
PGR4: 85 Average, Edge 90 (+5)
Ace Combat 6: 80 Average, Edge 80 (0)
Crackdown: 83 Average, Edge 80 (-3)
L4D: 89 Average, Edge 90 (+1)
L4D2: 89 Average, Edge 90 (+1)
Ninja Gaiden 2: 81 Average, Edge 80(-1)

Average: 1.1 point higher than Metacritic

I rest my case, it's crystal clear what they are.

Just from the top 6 rated games:

Bioshock: average 96, Edge 80 (-16)
Mass Effect 2: average 96, Edge 90 (-6)
Oblivion: average 94, Edge 80 (-14)

Any reason you missed those? It's almost like you're only counting scores that prove your point.

 

[corduroygt]

So what happens to Edge bias when they score with or above Metacritic?

LBP:
Edge 100 Meta 95

Demonsouls:
Edge 90 Meta 89


With the backlash against MGS4, Killzone 2, Resistance 2, pehaps Edge were close to reality about the actual quality of those games than the magazines who either bought into the hype or give up high numbers to appease the rabid fanbase.

That's just two outliers, while all the other scores show statistical bias against ps3 exclusives. Interesting that the backlash against mw2 and gta4 didn't translate into edge scores. Edge are as unbiased towards the ps3 as fox news is unbiased towards the obama administration.

 

[corduroygt]

Just from the top 6 rated games:

Bioshock: average 96, Edge 80 (-16)
Mass Effect 2: average 96, Edge 90 (-6)
Oblivion: average 94, Edge 80 (-14)

Any reason you missed those? It's almost like you're only counting scores that prove your point.

That's because im comparing high profile exclusives and the great majority shows bias. I can select all the exclusives but that takes too much time and yes mass effect is an outlier just like lbp.

 

[warb]

That's because im comparing high profile exclusives and the great majority shows bias. I can select all the exclusives but that takes too much time and yes mass effect is an outlier just like lbp.

Both Oblivion and Bioshock were high-profile exclusives if you include games like L4D.

Your list misses games they've scored higher than average on PS3, and games scored much lower than average on 360.