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Fact: Nintendo to release HD console + controllers with built-in screen late 2012
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More news from GAF via Nikkei via Andriasang, though it's really nothing we didnt know, well partly, and nothing I really care about (aka how damn powerful is the f%^#$#$^$^ thing already!)
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/04/nikkei_wii_controller_details/
Basically confirms 6" touchscreen, controllers have built in battery and camera, controller can be played as handheld when not used at TV.
Says release in 2nd half 2012. Gives Sony/MS even more time to milk PS360 then, and also bolsters my thought that not much will be shown this E3. The real blowout will be next E3.
These controllers sound super expensive though, and further lead me to possibly suspect it will only be an RV730 in the system. Then again, launching 2012 might lead the other direction towards more power (RV740), as Nintendo has to expect the console to last a while.
Edit apparently there was some question on Andrisangs translation for "late 2012" and the Japanese actually means mid-2012 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28257489&postcount=131. So mid 2012 release.
Edit2: I think I'm starting to figure it out. Each controller as a handheld, at least any kind of decent one, is going to require expensive hardware in each controller, right? I'm thinking in reality this may go Onlive style, the machine will play the games even when not on TV, and only stream the video Onlive style to the controller. That's a theory, anyway. Probably the only workable one the more I think about it, and makes the "current, stream" type names make perfect sense. It would seem to limit you to one controller playing remotely at a time though. Although not even that is true, Halo has 4 player split screen co-op...
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/04/nikkei_wii_controller_details/
Basically confirms 6" touchscreen, controllers have built in battery and camera, controller can be played as handheld when not used at TV.
Says release in 2nd half 2012. Gives Sony/MS even more time to milk PS360 then, and also bolsters my thought that not much will be shown this E3. The real blowout will be next E3.
These controllers sound super expensive though, and further lead me to possibly suspect it will only be an RV730 in the system. Then again, launching 2012 might lead the other direction towards more power (RV740), as Nintendo has to expect the console to last a while.
Edit apparently there was some question on Andrisangs translation for "late 2012" and the Japanese actually means mid-2012 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28257489&postcount=131. So mid 2012 release.
Edit2: I think I'm starting to figure it out. Each controller as a handheld, at least any kind of decent one, is going to require expensive hardware in each controller, right? I'm thinking in reality this may go Onlive style, the machine will play the games even when not on TV, and only stream the video Onlive style to the controller. That's a theory, anyway. Probably the only workable one the more I think about it, and makes the "current, stream" type names make perfect sense. It would seem to limit you to one controller playing remotely at a time though. Although not even that is true, Halo has 4 player split screen co-op...
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No, all the game is processed by the console and streamed to the controller.
Your theory is basically what all the rumours and leaked slides have told us for months...
No, it limits to one game session being played at the time. But up to 4 players can play the same session through their controllers, in a situation where splitscreen would be used.
Nintendo's financial year is April-March, so "mid" may still be late in the calendar year. A summer launch (northern hemisphere) doesn't make much sense to me, so I wouldn't expect anything until, say, September (late Q3 calendar, Q2 financial) at any rate.
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http://e3.gamespot.com/story/631694...ntroller-confirmed-report/?tag=topstory;title
Sotheir new console is a NGP with extra power when at home taht does competition totheir 3DS... That still doesnt make sense to me.
I will be waiting till Nintendo press conference to believe.
We had a thread on this on B3D.
Personally, the console-on-the-go concept helps justify for a dedicated gaming machine in an iOS + Android + Win8 world. There are also many board games and card games we can play with multiple private screens.
I was hoping Sony make Vita and PS3 work together in a distributed computing fashion. The Nintendo setup is one of the possible configurations, and very suitable for a family.
You get a better 3D experience in board and card games when you use actual boards and cards :smile:
Yes, and the haptic feedback technology they employ is incredibly realistic!
But some games are overly complex to manage in paper form, and made simpler, faster and more fun by computerising. I think the idea of 'board games' being computerised for family entertainment is a very good one, though best suited to a tabletop surface computer rather than a TV and controllers.
Well... We get to choose what to buy anyway. You can't lose an item in a digital board game. Don't have to clean up. Can continue another time without taking up space. The German board games are really something.
I'm sure there are many family and party games yet to be discovered.
I'm sure there are many family and party games yet to be discovered.
Social gaming emphasizes shared experience. Beaming contents to private screens goes against that. Back in my college days, the games we most often play at parties were Street Fighter II, Soul Blade, Bomberman, and Super Puzzle Fighter. They're all games that're not presented from the player's POV, making it easier for other spectators to follow.
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There'll be a lot of selling points for the next console. From the rumours, I don't think there'll be only one big selling point but a whole lot of them.
That said, I don't think playing "e-versions" of board games effectively would be a "bad" selling point at all. Mario Party is essencially a "board game" and the latest game sold ~8 million copies, for example.
Having private screens doesn't mean absolutely no sharing of experience. e.g., It could mean users have power to decide *when* and *how* they want to share their hands of cards. ^_^
It allows the designers to implement more ideas and depth.
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Exactly. I don't know how people can assume.that adding an individual screen in addition to the existing TV screen goes against social gaming. It's like claiming that playing cards isn't "social" because you're not supposed to show your hand.
By the contrary, it allows new ideas and methods to be introduced in all games, social ones included.
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