Dreams : create, share & play [PS4, PS5]
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This sound like reason enough for other devs to try their hands with software based rendering.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/30/dreams-ps4-paris-games-week/
http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/30/dreams-ps4-paris-games-week/
Even tough the load times were just few seconds long, the transitions between one dream into another [green field > library > giant mouse] were done by game contacting servers and downloading level data on the fly.
This was mentioned in that latest MM twitch session.
With the assets being so small & easy to share I can see Dreams becoming Web PS4.0. you might see companies making dreams to advertise their products.
I'm interested in how this game will be adapted into VR experience. Editor and sculpting can easily be ported, but the dream sequences themselves could be tougher [since they can use any genre/camera/movement/geometry density [VR needs to hit 60fps, HDTV gameplay does not]]. Maybe they could create a toggle for marking Dreams as "VR compatible" so that VR users can get a separate filtered playlist of levels.
https://mobile.twitter.com/paniq/status/660433105078067201
Very interesting twitter conversation with Alex Evans
Due to a bug they disabled "displacement everywhere " for E3 demo it is back now.
The livestream of 23 October Alex Evans tells they succeed to gain 30 ms of rendering time probably under 30 fps. I think it is useful for VR too and before the engine was probably nowhere near 60 fps but they have some hard work to do...
Alex Evans think all the Simon Brown improvement to the engine are worthy of an entire SIGGRAPH presentation.
He said to they have a pretty good fined grain occlusion culling process.
Very interesting twitter conversation with Alex Evans
Due to a bug they disabled "displacement everywhere " for E3 demo it is back now.
@paniq @sjb3d it is nowe3 trailer, all splats were planar. Currently, all splats are heightfield. Incredible to see how much it shifts
The livestream of 23 October Alex Evans tells they succeed to gain 30 ms of rendering time probably under 30 fps. I think it is useful for VR too and before the engine was probably nowhere near 60 fps but they have some hard work to do...
Alex Evans think all the Simon Brown improvement to the engine are worthy of an entire SIGGRAPH presentation.
He said to they have a pretty good fined grain occlusion culling process.
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It is interesting than they use perfect LOD of the rendering engine to do different size of the same object in the creation mode.
And I like the clever utilization of this feature of the engine to improve a tree creating a branch which is the same tree at a different size...
Another advantage is no pop in during a play session or watching a movie created in Dreams.
And I like the clever utilization of this feature of the engine to improve a tree creating a branch which is the same tree at a different size...
Another advantage is no pop in during a play session or watching a movie created in Dreams.
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The game really does look beautiful. It's going to be great to see where this method of rendering ends up five years from now. I'm also curious about resolution. Since it won't have aliasing, like a rasterized game, I wonder if 1080p would be sufficient for incredibly realistic rendering.
The creation tools look very good. It's cool, and smart, to allow assets that are created to be exported for other tools like Unity, or 3D printing. It would be really interesting if they could go the other way, importing objects for 3ds Max or something like that.
The creation tools look very good. It's cool, and smart, to allow assets that are created to be exported for other tools like Unity, or 3D printing. It would be really interesting if they could go the other way, importing objects for 3ds Max or something like that.
I'm not so sure about the not having aliasing. It sure isn't rasterizing triangles, but from what I understood, their current code splats a bunch of hard pixels into a noisy gbuffer, lit with a also noisy defferred lightin system and it's all up to temporal screen space AA to clean up. In footage shown, I could spot both noise and ghosting in certain moments. Not that it bothered me, I think they did the right thing actually.
Yeah, they kept repeating 'let the temporal AA clean it up!' in the Siggraph presentation. That may be a major problem in VR if they can't control IQ. But then a good post AA should work well for Dreams.
Ok, that makes sense. I was thinking more of the sawtooth pattern you see on straight edges typical to rasterized rendering at lower resolutions. Maybe I'm wrong, but I haven't noticed that type of edge crawling.
You are not wrong for edge aliasing and other aliasing are there...
Yes, I should have been clear I was referring to edge aliasing.
