3 frametime stats (framerate mean, 5th and 1st percentile frametime) would be enough IMO. And they could even show those in real-time instead (or on top of) current framerate / frametime. NXGamer was often showing real-time framerate average in his analysis.While I agree with Alex that it would be nice to get rid of FPS as a metric for a game's performance or smoothness.. I still think it's the best way to show the typical viewer an easily quantifiable difference in performance between two or more platforms at any given second. MS and frametimes tells a better story for smoothness and consistency over time though obviously.
I'd say get rid of the FPS graph portion and just post the FPS of each platform in the top corner like Rich does in his reviews, and then have the frametime graph the entire ength of the screen on the bottom.
While I agree with Alex that it would be nice to get rid of FPS as a metric for a game's performance or smoothness.. I still think it's the best way to show the typical viewer an easily quantifiable difference in performance between two or more platforms at any given second. MS and frametimes tells a better story for smoothness and consistency over time though obviously.
I'd say get rid of the FPS graph portion and just post the FPS of each platform in the top corner like Rich does in his reviews, and then have the frametime graph the entire length of the screen on the bottom.
IIRC it was around then, perhaps slightly earlier.. I found some emails between myself and Scott Wasson from the Tech Report where we were discussing various ways to capture and present the data from early 2013 - indeed some were linked to a B3D post I made at the time with my thoughts. Unfortunately that seems to fallen *just* off the end of where the B3D history seems to cover, but sounds like the right time-frame. I know other folks were experimenting with similar methods around the same time as well but I'm fairly sure that TR was one of the first to start putting things like frame time graphs and 99%/1% percentile type measurements routinely into their reviews.
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Ryan Shrout at PCPerspective was also one of the earliest to recognize the important of frame pacing. Though even he credits Scott with kicking things off.IIRC it was around then, perhaps slightly earlier.. I found some emails between myself and Scott Wasson from the Tech Report where we were discussing various ways to capture and present the data from early 2013 - indeed some were linked to a B3D post I made at the time with my thoughts. Unfortunately that seems to fallen *just* off the end of where the B3D history seems to cover, but sounds like the right time-frame. I know other folks were experimenting with similar methods around the same time as well but I'm fairly sure that TR was one of the first to start putting things like frame time graphs and 99%/1% percentile type measurements routinely into their reviews.
I don't think it was specific to crossfire/SLI, but that was certainly one place where it was very obvious that the numbers said things were good but the visual smoothness did not align. There were games that exhibited poor frame pacing at the time as well that were other motivations to try and find a better way to quantify the issues.
[Edit] Found that this is still (sort of) online, which IIRC was one of the most often quoted manifestos around this topic, although there were several follow-ups. Dated 2011:
Inside the second: A new look at game benchmarking
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the only issue I found, playing at 165fps is that the gamepad movement has too much inertia for me. Maybe it's my cheap gamepad, maybe it's the game. Gotta tweak it. Currently playing the secret level of the first campaign of Doom 1. I still remember most of the secrets of the first campaign, not many from the rest.
Indeed! I had the pleasure of meeting them both at various GDCs over the years and had some great chats about all this stuff. Both great and passionate people, but I certainly can't blame them for wanting to apply their skills in a different context. Hope they are both still doing well!Ryan Shrout at PCPerspective was also one of the earliest to recognize the important of frame pacing. Though even he credits Scott with kicking things off.
Both Scott and Ryan got picked up by major IHVs. They did great work. RIP TechReport
I was under the impression this was going to be a World War Z type of game set in a different universe. Kind of disappointing, but the tech looks like a strong upgrade.
I found the heretic traitor, someone go call chaplain bald.
Very very impressive, so it's essentially Nanite (for everything except foliage) + ray traced lighting (ReSTiR) + ray traced shadows + ray traced reflections + ray traced particled + ray traced caustics, the visual result is a true treat.
No thanks, I tried playing Witcher 3 next gen with RT shadows, the extremely obvious lack of shadow animation anywhere further than like 2 meters away and constant shadow LOD pop (now shadows get to very obviously lod pop too!) made me turn RT shadows off entirely after a while.
