Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2020]

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Unreal Engine in its stock form produces very unimpressive visuals and performance. Its only when Sony or Microsoft 1st party completely retool the rendering that it competes. Bespoke solutions such as Decima, ND engine, frostbite, RAGE etc produce far superior visuals and performance.

Unreal's real strength has always been it's editor and tools. It's never been the most efficient when it comes to end product performance, but it's on the creation side where it shines.

 

[iroboto]

Unreal's real strength has always been it's editor and tools. It's never been the most efficient when it comes to end product performance, but it's on the creation side where it shines.

i found out of box, it looks pretty good actually.
Performance however, yea... it can be fairly bad once you try to do anything outside indie/AA scope I think. It's very easy to blow your performance budget in that engine.

 

[AlNom]

I saw that in the trailer and thought it's RT LOD. You wouldn't have these missing elements in screen-space reflections.

ironically, I still think SSR makes a lot of sense for normal racing conditions given the typical camera angles relative to the road. It just needs RT to handle the corner cases there.

Are car garages normally this shiny? I'd rather have higher quality RT on just the car in the garage if it came down to showing things off (screen).

 

[Deleted member 7537]

i found out of box, it looks pretty good actually.
Performance however, yea... it can be fairly bad once you try to do anything outside indie/AA scope I think. It's very easy to blow your performance budget in that engine.

Yep. You just need to compare Gears 5 and Borderlands. Same engine, two completely different outcomes.

 

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i found out of box, it looks pretty good actually.
Performance however, yea... it can be fairly bad once you try to do anything outside indie/AA scope I think. It's very easy to blow your performance budget in that engine.

I'm not sure Hellblade has any huge parts of the engine rewritten, and while it certainly falls into the AA category, it's still a looker that runs pretty well on most systems. But overall, I would agree. It has unbalanced performance. It's also a bit CPU heavy for current consoles, IMHO. But really easy to work with.

 

[Scott_Arm]

I have a feeling that UE performance out of the box will be improving over time. Since Fortnite BR came out they've amassed a huge amount of talent and money.

 

[chris1515]

Confirmation Spiderman Mile Morales has raytraced reflection @Dictator

 

[cheapchips]

Confirmation Spiderman Mile Morales has raytraced

Excellent. Can't think of a better a better raytraced reflections scenario than a NY Spiderman game.

 

[iroboto]

sounds like shared technologies from R&C and Spiderman. Expecting the same implementation here.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

ironically, I still think SSR makes a lot of sense for normal racing conditions given the typical camera angles relative to the road. It just needs RT to handle the corner cases there.

This stuff will keep DF busy for years. "Here you can see the desk reflected in the marble floor, but curiously not the chair, although the mans upper torso is reflected except for his watch on his right hand, which while not being reflected in the marble floor, does itself reflect light from this lamp".

I am dreading nextgen console warrior arguments already.

 

[iroboto]

This stuff will keep DF busy for years. "Here you can see the desk reflected in the marble floor, but curiously not the chair, although the mans upper torso is reflected except for his watch on his right hand, which while not being reflected in the marble floor, does itself reflect light from this lamp".

I am dreading nextgen console warrior arguments already.

but it's a lot better of a discussion than resolution, much better discussion. It's the area we'll see the most innovation and compromise and creativity. Certainly more fun than pixel counting. We may save their eyes.

 

[London Geezer]

TOLD YOU SO!

 

[BRiT]

TOLD YOU SO!

LA LA LA! I DIDN'T HEAR YOU! LA LA LA!

 

[iroboto]

TOLD YOU SO!

lol but I still want to know the resolution! it still matters to us 4Kers, but not for console wars.

 

[chris1515]

 

[Boxercide]

Interesting that we may be looking at 4k/30 and 1440/60 modes. Either way, looks gorgeous.

 

[Deleted member 7537]

Maybe 1440p and CB to 4k?

 

[Inuhanyou]

Maybe 1440p and CB to 4k?

If horizon can get native 4k this will get native 4k at 30fps.

 

[Boxercide]

Maybe 1440p and CB to 4k?

You didn't watch or read the article.

"pristine, native 3840x2160 resolution"

 

[techuse]

You didn't watch or read the article.

"pristine, native 3840x2160 resolution"

I understood his post as referring to the possible performance mode.