Devil May Cry 4 Going Multi-platform! (Xbox 360/PS3/PC) *Confirmed

That announcement was made before the PS3 even launched though; I agree it was big/huge, but since GTA's been a time exclusive at best recently, and the news is old... I don't know. I mean, these are *real* exclusives we're talking about here, not just a six month advance (a la GTA).

True, but in all honesty GTA means far more than any other exclusive, I mean, DMC does not hold a candle to the mass appeal of GTA, and the 6month delay was extremely effective in selling the PS2 as the console to buy if you wanted to play GTA.

Inane - Agree totally on your comments on SE. These guy's seem so out of touch with reality that it really surprises me, they don't seem to realize the massive sales they could net by bringing FF over to 360, and instead insist on thinking of Xbox as a platform for only shooters and MMO games, hence their announcement a 360 'shooter' game, and the rumours of development of a SE MMO game for both platforms.
 
Does this mean that Monster Hunter 3 might be next? It used the same multiplatform engine as DMC4 as far as I know (Framework engine). And yes MH3 is a big franchise, I'd say about as big as DMC. There was a rumour thread on Gaf about it, but it seems like a logical conclussion after this development. These 2 games are a big part of the reason I was getting a PS3 over a 360, this can't be good news for Sony.
 
True, but in all honesty GTA means far more than any other exclusive, I mean, DMC does not hold a candle to the mass appeal of GTA, and the 6month delay was extremely effective in selling the PS2 as the console to buy if you wanted to play GTA.

I agree with you there, but really I'm just sort of focused on the exclsusives of 'Christmas Future' rather than of 'Christmas Past' right now, and DMC4 is the first of those to fall.

The idea of GTA as *the* franchise though, I do agree with.

Inane - Agree totally on your comments on SE. These guy's seem so out of touch with reality that it really surprises me, they don't seem to realize the massive sales they could net by bringing FF over to 360, and instead insist on thinking of Xbox as a platform for only shooters and MMO games, hence their announcement a 360 'shooter' game, and the rumours of development of a SE MMO game for both platforms.

Well, as you know I've already said that my vote for 'extreme holdout' is MGS4 (despite Inane's smooth-talking!), but you should recognize that S-E's relationship with Sony is a little more complicated than most. Sony was there for them at a crucial time in their history, and is still an owner of ~8% of their company, so seemingly irrational deference to their platform can be expalined through more Earthly means I think.
 
I agree with you there, but really I'm just sort of focused on the exclsusives of 'Christmas Future' rather than of 'Christmas Past' right now, and DMC4 is the first of those to fall.

The idea of GTA as *the* franchise though, I do agree with.

Lol, ok I love the christmas story reference, so fair nuff ;)
 
DMC 1-3 with updated graphics for the 360 all in one edition coming out before DMC4 should prove quite appealing also.
 
That announcement was made before the PS3 even launched though; I agree it was big/huge, but since GTA's been a time exclusive at best recently, and the news is old... I don't know. I mean, these are *real* exclusives we're talking about here, not just a six month advance (a la GTA).
Plus, the move was not unprecedented. R* was sequentially warming up to the Xbox platform over time and parity was the inevitable result of that. I classify it with the "well, of course" titles like UT3 and Mercenaries 2. The change from time-exclusive to day-and-date was really the only remaining barrier between the two platforms and everyone pretty much saw it coming.

Not to diminish its importance, of course. But it really wasn't big to me because it was so expected.

Hmmm... well, I'm not sure I would say that VF5 was big, but I agree it's bigger than those others. It went into time-exclusive mode though, which is sort-of a halfway point. DMC4 being released simultaneously is on a different level even.
I agree that DMC4 is on a different level than VF5 due to their timings. VF5 just seemed big to me because I was not expecting it at all.

Several months ago I posted about how MS has a good platform and their increasing 3rd party portfolio is a good thing but they were still second class until the top class of Japanese games was on the 360. MGS, VF, Tekken, FF, DQ and DMC were the main (3rd party) franchises that just were not on Xbox. VF was the first on my list to make the jump. Now DMC. I don't know that, by themselves, the games are all that important. What I do know is that any platform that they could be on but they aren't is just not a leading console. It's a validation thing. If Sega was fine with having VF only on the PS3, then there was something clearly inferior about the 360. That the Xbox is getting these games means that the platform is finally arriving.

That's kinda how I judge "big."

Well, we'll see. Hopefully (for Sony), neither titles moves over to the 360 - but I'll still hold the reverse position of FFXIII before MGS4. :)
Well, you're far more aquainted with Kojima, Kutaragi and Wada lore than I. So you're probably right. I still think S-E support will be the last straw, though. Probability be darned. :p

Out of curiosity, do you ever see Level 5 working on an MS platform again? 'Cause I don't. I think they'd gladly sell themselves to Sony before they did that, and I would imagine that Sony would be happy with such a situation.



Inane - Agree totally on your comments on SE. These guy's seem so out of touch with reality that it really surprises me, they don't seem to realize the massive sales they could net by bringing FF over to 360, and instead insist on thinking of Xbox as a platform for only shooters and MMO games, hence their announcement a 360 'shooter' game, and the rumours of development of a SE MMO game for both platforms.
Well, I'm not sure I'd say they are out of touch. I would say that they have the capability to back up their obstinance more than most Japanese developers, though. Even though it's unquestionable that they could get more sales from being multiplatform, that just doesn't seem to be as important as it is to most other developers.



(despite Inane's smooth-talking!)
I guess there's a first time to be accused of everything. ;)
 
Crazy! Seems like the playing fields are beginning to level up for sure, as far as 3rd party influence is concerned.

All the more focus to be placed on SONY's own 1st/2nd party efforts, as it seems like this gen will be decided by it - no longer by exclusives as they were in the past (to a certain extent).

Fu3lFr3nzy said:
Ouch! (for potential PS3 owners).
So having a simultaneous release on 360 hurts PS3 owners how? I for one intend on picking up a PS3 (when the damn thing gets here!), and this news will now stop me from picking up this game when it launches - win for all!
 
So having a simultaneous release on 360 hurts PS3 owners how?
He said "potential" owners, as in they haven't purchased one yet. For the PS3's price, you pretty much want every possible reason to get it over a 360 or a Wii. Every game that goes from PS3 exclusivity (or perceived PS3 exclusivity) to any other state takes away a reason to get the PS3 which makes the PS3 less appealing and harder to justify.
 
Woot for PC :) That's the one I am going to get, if it is release at the same time.

They need to release info on the DMC4 gameplay system. At the moment its looking like DMC3 Lite, though with potential. I am bored with DMC3SE already, I think I played the game to death.

I need my action game fix :( Next probably NG Sigma, but I am kinda bored with that too.
 
Liked the first DMC.

But liked God of War way more and the DMC sequels lost some of its luster.

HS also seems to be the same genre of game.

DMC is huge in Japan but have the sequels sold well outside of Japan?
 
Liked the first DMC.

But liked God of War way more and the DMC sequels lost some of its luster.

HS also seems to be the same genre of game.

DMC is huge in Japan but have the sequels sold well outside of Japan?

DMC never really recover after the crapiness that is DMC2. DMC3 +SE are only sold to the hardcore fans, there aren't many of them AFAIK. That's why they are rebooting the series with a new main character. But yeah, if they reboot the gameplay into DMC3 lite, I'll abandon the series too.
 
DMC3 was the best of the series IMO. DMC1 was also great, and because it was released early in the PS2's life, it was more impressive. DMC2 was by far the worst, and it was just a terrible game period.

i think DMC3 sold ok in N/A, but not great.
 
Liked the first DMC.

But liked God of War way more and the DMC sequels lost some of its luster.

HS also seems to be the same genre of game.

DMC is huge in Japan but have the sequels sold well outside of Japan?

According to vgcharts, in Japan, the sequels have sold less and less with each iteration. If they released DMC4 on just PS3 it would probably not break 100k units at this present time. Of course in Japan a 360 version isn't going to help sales much either. In the US it should do much better.

In Japan
DMC1: 640,000
DMC2: 510,000
DMC3: 290,000
DMC3 SE: 50,000
 
He said "potential" owners, as in they haven't purchased one yet. For the PS3's price, you pretty much want every possible reason to get it over a 360 or a Wii. Every game that goes from PS3 exclusivity (or perceived PS3 exclusivity) to any other state takes away a reason to get the PS3 which makes the PS3 less appealing and harder to justify.
I realise that, but you guys are assuming that all *potential* PS3 owners care about DMC. Not everyone that's buying a PS3 is doing so because DMC was exclusive to the console. For me, it never even entered my mind that I'm investing a lot of money in the PS3 because games like DMC will be there. For some, the decision is beyond what DMC has to offer, which is why I address his generalization of PS3 owners.

Personally, I think it's sad that SONY don't seem to want to hold on to these exclusives (well, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes, so I'm really guessing), but then again, I've been posting in the past about SONY's approach this gen., and that's to focus more on the 1st/2nd party games, and strive to really produce great, AAA titles. I guess it could be in pursuit of a Nintendo-esque model, but I guess we'll never know.

For PS3 owners, there's really nothing to mourn here, as the game will still be released on the PS3. For those who purchased the PS3 because of exclusives like DMC, lets hope SONY WWS delivers with it's own efforts to warrant your purchase.
 
Well, this gen Capcom definitely seems to want to become really really big and I don't really care whether they are out to become the next EA or not as long as they keep the quality it is fine. Is Capcom on the way to become the biggest one in Japan?

I can see their strategy and why it makes sense, especially for DMC. Sure the first and most obvious point would be that the PS3 does not seem to have sold as well as expected and hence they want to just expand the potential market and seeing how very well their other games did on the 360 it is no surprize that they will be releasing it there as well.

The other thing is that the competition is increasing, now that HS and Ninja Gaiden Sigma are comming and are games in the same genre, coupled with the quite small install base you will not even have the "big fish in small pond" thingy working for you and the only way to offset that would be to increase the potential market for your product.

As for the subsequent discussion that has followed on who would be next in announcing multiplatform support especially concerning Konami/MGS and SE/FFXIII I am very pessimistic about both. On the one hand you have Kojima that does not seem to excited about the 360 and especially porting MGS there and I wonder how much Konami coud imfluence him and on the other hand you have SE with their historical bonds and even being a bit owned by Sony and thus thing do look grim for seeing those titles on the xbox.

There might be a bigger chance though for MGS being on the 360 as there is some prvious history for that but I think xbox360 owners can forget simultanous releases and getting the games as such, if they would ever come it would be some sort of spin offs or something...
 
Capcom's own next-gen engine is set to be mulit-platform oriented.Judged by worldwide market this year and PS3/360 hardware power,they put DMC4 for mulit-platform is smart idea for making profit.

Remember Capcom did same thing on GCN RE4.....:)
 
I just wonder if the PC version will be as poor as RE:4 and DMC 3 were. :cry:

Capcom already have a PC version of their next-gen multiplataform engine so I think that they will handle the port themselves instead out-sourcing it and at least this time we aren't talking about a PS2's port.
 
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