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So basically.... No hybrid? Still 2 or more formats? .... *Not happy*
PC-Engine said:london-boy said:
Don't worry Toshiba/Samsung has hybrid drives that can read both BR and HD DVD.
Unless you're obsessed with having everything SONY maybe you should try Toshiba products instead, maybe even a Toshiba SED HDTV.
Well that's still stupid. Now HMV will have shelves filled with the same movies, but on 2 formats, probably offering some kind of "exclusive material" each just to force the fans to buy both copies, and force normal people (like me) to choose one extra over the other.... *Still not happy*
PC-Engine said:Unless you're obsessed with having everything SONY maybe you should try Toshiba products instead, maybe even a Toshiba SED HDTV.
Remember, i'm in the UK... SED HDTV here is on the same level as Enterprise.
Besides, by the time i save enough money to get into the HD Era (damn you MS!), we should have cheapo drives, and cheapo HDTVs. Certainly not Sony. Good for me.
Pugger said:
That's the whole point of the double sided double whatever disc! Play the SD side on a normal old DVD player, or play the HD material on the other side on a new HDDVD player.
DuckThor Evil
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Pugger said:
No, but the disc with 30gb on hd and 8,5gb standard will be playable, but only the standard side of the disk, this allows publishers to publish both versions of the movie on the same disc.
Well, let's juts see where things play out to - a major newspaper isn't going to just be reporting on fantasy.
By May 16th we should know.
And even though I've been more or less rooting for blu-ray, should Toshiba just out and out win with their format, I won't really be complaining as long as the PS3 gets it.
By May 16th we should know.
And even though I've been more or less rooting for blu-ray, should Toshiba just out and out win with their format, I won't really be complaining as long as the PS3 gets it.
Me and technical issues London, don't mix well. Thanks for the reply. Thats why I visit B3D, to increase my knowledge of cutting edge technology. The one thing I learned quickly was, I have no idea what many of you say and mean but its good to recite the important bits parrot fashion down the pub on a Friday night.
Joe DeFuria
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I assume that this "triple layer" part of the new standard...such that all released HD DVD players will be required to read that layer? (Otherwise, what's the point?)
Same goes for the suppossed 100 GB quad layer BR disc. It doesn't matter what the format "can support" IMO. It matters what the "standard" is...what ALL players will be required to play back from day 1.
Same goes for the suppossed 100 GB quad layer BR disc. It doesn't matter what the format "can support" IMO. It matters what the "standard" is...what ALL players will be required to play back from day 1.
The reason for consumers to be acquainted with the term or have heard about it is irrelevant since it is the ‘only’ option. So by that a name doesn’t matter. People won’t buy another product with a better name since there aren’t any. So they can call it Mud.
Personally, since this is a brand new format that uses a brand new technology and it is the next big thing in this field, we need a brand new name. either go with Blu-ray or cook up another new name.
By your logic, DVD should have been called CD-DVD.
As a quick example think about a new version of an OS. The new windows won’t have ‘xp’ in it. By your way of thinking it should. So, for example, Longhorn XP is good?
If they go that way, it gives the impression of an update and not an entirely new offering. If you got a name of a media platform with common phrases you think it has ‘extra’ features while BD is a totally new platform. Thus it needs a totally new and unused name to state that it is indeed new.
I don’t want to see such names still being used in the next decade using such mentality. Just imagine, Holo-DVD! Whippy.
Personally, since this is a brand new format that uses a brand new technology and it is the next big thing in this field, we need a brand new name. either go with Blu-ray or cook up another new name.
By your logic, DVD should have been called CD-DVD.
As a quick example think about a new version of an OS. The new windows won’t have ‘xp’ in it. By your way of thinking it should. So, for example, Longhorn XP is good?
If they go that way, it gives the impression of an update and not an entirely new offering. If you got a name of a media platform with common phrases you think it has ‘extra’ features while BD is a totally new platform. Thus it needs a totally new and unused name to state that it is indeed new.
I don’t want to see such names still being used in the next decade using such mentality. Just imagine, Holo-DVD! Whippy.
Link to the article:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/s...Y=/www/story/05-10-2005/0003592426&EDATE=
What I find interesting about all of this is not the fact Toshiba has developed a triple layer HD DVD, but the fact Hollywood is embracing it which points the costs of these disc still being within their requirements. Also the fact Hollywood has also embraced the hybrid HD DVD/DVD discs. That means consumers will have any easy upgrade path now.
Yes it's actually trivial to include multilayer reading into the firmware of HD DVD players that will be launched this fall.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/s...Y=/www/story/05-10-2005/0003592426&EDATE=
What I find interesting about all of this is not the fact Toshiba has developed a triple layer HD DVD, but the fact Hollywood is embracing it which points the costs of these disc still being within their requirements. Also the fact Hollywood has also embraced the hybrid HD DVD/DVD discs. That means consumers will have any easy upgrade path now.
Joe DeFuria said:
Yes it's actually trivial to include multilayer reading into the firmware of HD DVD players that will be launched this fall.
Why exactly? Because they can get less onto three layers than BluRay can? Because they've got 45 Gb dics where BluRay has 200Gb discs?PC-Engine said:
Until one company pulls out, the 'war' isn't over.
Shifty Geezer said:Why exactly? Because they can get less onto three layers than BluRay can? Because they've got 45 Gb dics where BluRay has 200Gb discs?PC-Engine said:
Until one company pulls out, the 'war' isn't over.
Let's put it this way, Hollywood doesn't care about 100GB single discs coming out in 2007 or 200GB single discs coming out in 2008. The only advantage that BR had over HD DVD was capacity, that's why Disney went with BR. Now that the tables have turned I expect Disney to release HD DVD movies too. I don't think Hollywood cares about 5GB considering everything is ready to go on the HD DVD front including cost demonstrations. What happens in 2008 is irrelevent. Also like Joe mentioned if existing BR players can't read future 8 layer discs then it's moot.
Pugger said:
It just make sense doesn't it? If you can walk into a store this year and pickup a hybrid disc that you can watch on your current DVD player and then later when you upgrade to a HD DVD player you can pop that same disc you bought a year ago and watch it in HD on your new player. It's a no brainer.
PC-Engine said:
Man you are really into press releases!
Just so you know, blu-ray has the same ability to put a standard DVD movie on the disc as well - and I wouldn't read too much into Universal's support, as I believe they were already on the HD-DVD bandwagon to begin with.
Link to blu-ray DVD combo tech: Link
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