BLU-RAY WIN!
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"In development" gets mentioned a lot, but no prototype. I've seen an article from Sept 2004 that mentioned Sony was "set to announce" that it "had developed" an 8-layer 200GB disk, but there was no actual announcement I can find, and no clue who said spokesman was and if he/she had any substance to him/her.
Toshiba shows HD-DVD player to media.
It's 1080i not 1080p
http://www.guidetohometheater.com/news/052305toshiba/
Hopefully, the Blu-Ray companies don't make the same mistake with 1080i instead of 1080p.
BTW, new DLP sets are true progressive sets. They have half the horizontal pixel count and use "wobbulation" to get double the effective pixel count.
The most promising thing Toshiba is offering is SED but that isn't due for 2-3 years, at least at affordable prices.
It's 1080i not 1080p
http://www.guidetohometheater.com/news/052305toshiba/
Hopefully, the Blu-Ray companies don't make the same mistake with 1080i instead of 1080p.
BTW, new DLP sets are true progressive sets. They have half the horizontal pixel count and use "wobbulation" to get double the effective pixel count.
The most promising thing Toshiba is offering is SED but that isn't due for 2-3 years, at least at affordable prices.
wco81 said:
First players at the end of the year for $1000?
So much for PCEngine and jvd's claims of cheap players straight away!PC-Engine said:I can build an all aluminum HTPC with HD DVD for $500.
Not the point.
By the time these players are cheaper, PS3 will be out at a $300-$350 pricepoint.
Then Sony, Panasonic and Pioneer (among others) will all have BlueRay players with more features at decent prices just so they can sell those instead of pushing people to buy a PS3 instead.
london-boy said:PC-Engine said:I can build an all aluminum HTPC with HD DVD for $500.
Not the point.
By the time these players are cheaper, PS3 will be out at a $300-$350 pricepoint.
What do you mean it's not the point? If I or anyone else can buy a HD DVD drive later this year for a measely $125 with HD DVD movie titles to watch, then it's definitely the point.
It's nice to dream...
PC-Engine said:What do you mean it's not the point? If I or anyone else can buy a HD DVD drive later this year for a measely $125 with HD DVD movie titles to watch, then it's definitely the point.
It's nice to dream...
Yeah it must be nice to dream, huh?
Tell me, genius, how many people will just "buy a $125 drive for PC" to the watch HDDVDs in tehir living room, apart from geeks like you (and me, cause i'll probably do the same)?
My answer is, not many. Surely not as many as the PS3 adopters, whenever the thing comes out.
Richard Doherty and amirm both work at MS, not Toshiba.
PCE must be Julie at AVS, repeating the HD-DVD drive for $125 line. If they hit that price, it would only be a read-only model and that is the OEM price for PC vendors who buy in the thousands, not the retail price.
Oh and in the other thread, you claimed HTPC this year with HD-DVD drive for $400, not $500.
Inflation already?
PCE must be Julie at AVS, repeating the HD-DVD drive for $125 line. If they hit that price, it would only be a read-only model and that is the OEM price for PC vendors who buy in the thousands, not the retail price.
Oh and in the other thread, you claimed HTPC this year with HD-DVD drive for $400, not $500.
Inflation already?
london-boy said:PC-Engine said:What do you mean it's not the point? If I or anyone else can buy a HD DVD drive later this year for a measely $125 with HD DVD movie titles to watch, then it's definitely the point.
It's nice to dream...
Yeah it must be nice to dream, huh?
Tell me, genius, how many people will just "buy a $125 drive for PC" to the watch HDDVDs in tehir living room, apart from geeks like you (and me, cause i'll probably do the same)?
My answer is, not many. Surely not as many as the PS3 adopters, whenever the thing comes out.
And how many of the PS3 adopters will actually buy BR movies? Not many.
You mean all PCs are priced the same? Wow I didn't know that. Maybe I should load up my HTPC with gobs of RAM since it'll be stuck at $400.
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How do you figure you can buy a drive for that price? And even if you could how many people would do something stupid like that.
Dream about what? I think you are the one dreaming. HD-DVD will not win so just stop it with the Sony bashing.
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PC-Engine said:And how many of the PS3 adopters will actually buy BR movies? Not many.
Who says? You?
If people are buying bloody UMD movies, rest assured, many people will buy BlueRay movies too.
How many people buy DVD drives for their computer? Why do they buy them? It must be the games released on DVD huh?
Then Sony, Panasonic and Pioneer (among others) will all have BlueRay players with more features at decent prices just so they can sell those instead of pushing people to buy a PS3 instead.
Dream about that.
london-boy said:PC-Engine said:And how many of the PS3 adopters will actually buy BR movies? Not many.
Who says? You?
If people are buying bloody UMD movies, rest assured, many people will buy BlueRay movies too.
Last time I checked not too many people were buying UMD movies.
PC-Engine said:How many people buy DVD drives for their computer? Why do they buy them? It must be the games released on DVD huh?
So now people buy DVD drives for PCs to watch movies?
No, people buy DVD players to watch DVDs.
Dream about that.
My point was, by the time these standalone HDDVD players are cheaper, there will be a BlueRay player priced $300-$350 on the market, the PS3.
Very simple, PC.
Ty said:london-boy said:First players at the end of the year for $1000?
Hmm, has there ever been a launch of something as tremendous as BR/HD-DVD that ever was cheap to begin with?
I know! I wasn't the one going around telling people how HDDVD players will be cheap straight away...
PC-Engine said:Last time I checked not too many people were buying UMD movies.
Exactly, cause there is not much of an incentive is there?
With BR, they will have the incentive, or at least just as much of an incentive as they have for HDDVD.
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