Arstechnica Reviews the PS3
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As far as I'm concerned day one on the software side of things was somewhere before last Spring.
They really shot themselves in the foot... If they would been more honest on the whole subject people wouldn't have been so hard on them now. IMHO.
We'll see.
Jesus Christ you guys want Sony to have a console on day 1 with all the upgrades on Day 1.
I don't think anyone is really expecting perfection on day one. IMO its just that considering the delay has always been blamed on Blu-Ray, it makes one think what have they been doing in this time. If there had not been a delay and the PS3 shipped in the spring, what would have things been like?
Which is still ridiculous. You still can't expect every feature to be included even 6 months after launch.
And what I really hate is the ******ism in the review. Same with the NYT review, it includes every possible negative while ignore every possible positive. The Xbox 360 doesn't even have a browser and they still manage to find space to bash the browser. And the browser from what I can tell works the same way as the PSP browser, which means it exclusively the unfamiliarity with the browser is the source of the negative review, not that the browser is slow or hard to use. Everything else is opinion too.
I don't.
Same problem. I don't even want a browser on my console. But if it was there, it had to be solid.
Simple.
It probably is solid, just that the review found a way to bash because it was "slow" and he can't figure it out. And how exactly do you bash a browser for being slow anyways? Wouldn't that imply that it's your internet connection that's slow and not the browser? The more I read it, the more I can't but think that the review is blazingly biased.
quest55720
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When you are second you are expected to match or exceed what is already out there. MS admittedly got a free pass on some of these issues but that is because they were first they pioneered all of this. Sony has had years to learn from xbox live they had to know about people bitching about the no back ground downloads and other issues. It is like the mp3 market every high end mp3 player is expected to have all the features of the ipod and even more to compete. If a new high end mp3 player is missing many key features the reviews will be negative even though it just launched. I don't expect things to be perfect but I expect basic things like scaling and background downloads from day one.
Not on a feature-by-feature basis it isn't. Overall it's much more feature rich than the Xbox 360. Only if you zero in on the negatives could one possibly find so many faults.
I think the main issue here is that Sony is and always be predominantly a hardware company. While MS is and will always be predominantly a software company.
The difference always shows up again and again when the two compete against each other.
Sony will try to push the hardware side of things, while trying to match their competitors in the software front. MS will try to push the software side of things, always trying to match their competitors in the hardware front.
Both have come a long way in their respective areas, and both have progressed a lot in the area they were not "dominating".
It's like expecting Tom Cruise to make a very very funny movie head to head with the Little Britain crew... And expect the Little Britain crew to do an action movie in the scale of the Mission Impossible movies.. Silly example but it's true: each company will push their own strengths and will obviously take a while to exceed at something they're not expert in.
The difference always shows up again and again when the two compete against each other.
Sony will try to push the hardware side of things, while trying to match their competitors in the software front. MS will try to push the software side of things, always trying to match their competitors in the hardware front.
Both have come a long way in their respective areas, and both have progressed a lot in the area they were not "dominating".
It's like expecting Tom Cruise to make a very very funny movie head to head with the Little Britain crew... And expect the Little Britain crew to do an action movie in the scale of the Mission Impossible movies.. Silly example but it's true: each company will push their own strengths and will obviously take a while to exceed at something they're not expert in.
I never said they had to, and i agree they have finite resources, but this is something that their competitor did. It should be on their list. I don't expect them to have tons of new features straight out but to at least equal MS would be nice
Good point.
Software you can update later, but hardware is ... hard.
quest55720
Regular
The faults are basic stuff that affects playing games for some people. I could careless if the linus features are broken because I play games on the console. Instead of trying to do everything right off the bat they should of just concentrated on matching what the 360 has done then work from there. Then in the future you can add features for the hardcore tech geeks. I think such basic features such as scaling and back ground downloading should of worked from day one.
The Xbox 360 didn't have many of those features at launch either.
Cool ! I like this review a lot better than the NYT and Times ones. Although still a few things missing, at least there are enough details about the system. The others sound more like personal blogging.
This is what I was talking about in some of my previous posts (along with shortfalls in the XMB UI).
They are not show-stoppers per-se but they prevent PS3 from being *complete*
The problem is not because Sony underdelivered. Sony has built an industry leading hardware platform but it has not found time to rationalize and communicate a consistent entertainment framework to consumers, the press or may be even internally. This affects the prioritization and direction of the software platform.
There are many possibilities/potential for enhancements and exciting things to come (because the hardware are there !), but I fear they may arrive piecemeal in an ad hoc fashion. One of my old VP of Sales used to say this:
People don't expect ingredients on a banquet table. They expect a ten-course dinner with every dish garnished, matched and served in sequence (e.g., appetizer, soup, main course, dessert).
PS3 has all the right ingredients *built-in* at a decreasing cost. Let's see some action
That said, congrats to Sony for getting the system out. There had been so many FUDs along the way (downplaying BR, SIXAXIS, Cell, web-browser, launch date, etc.). Now is the time for Sony to stick to their hardware platform and rev-up (or rewrite part of) the software.
This is what I was talking about in some of my previous posts (along with shortfalls in the XMB UI).
They are not show-stoppers per-se but they prevent PS3 from being *complete*
The problem is not because Sony underdelivered. Sony has built an industry leading hardware platform but it has not found time to rationalize and communicate a consistent entertainment framework to consumers, the press or may be even internally. This affects the prioritization and direction of the software platform.
There are many possibilities/potential for enhancements and exciting things to come (because the hardware are there !), but I fear they may arrive piecemeal in an ad hoc fashion. One of my old VP of Sales used to say this:
People don't expect ingredients on a banquet table. They expect a ten-course dinner with every dish garnished, matched and served in sequence (e.g., appetizer, soup, main course, dessert).
PS3 has all the right ingredients *built-in* at a decreasing cost. Let's see some action
That said, congrats to Sony for getting the system out. There had been so many FUDs along the way (downplaying BR, SIXAXIS, Cell, web-browser, launch date, etc.). Now is the time for Sony to stick to their hardware platform and rev-up (or rewrite part of) the software.
Exactly. Funny enough, Sony seems to have more broken hardware (at least now?) than MS this time around...
But really, expecting Sony to produce OS and general software libraries at the same level of MS is like expecting MS to produce HDTVs (say, the Bravia X-series) at the same level Sony does.
Possible but it takes time.
Arctic Permafrost
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Looks like they've spent the whole year designing PS3 internals.
For instance, PS2 gamepad has never worked well with FPSs (one of my favourite genres) and it has not been improved at all. Now the PS3 has enough power to run most demanding FPS games but I can't imagine someone playing them efficiently.
If a friend buys a PS3, and my curiosity proves stronger than my fear, then I will try to play a FPS on the PS3, but...
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