Kyyla
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Damn I might have to buy B-die ram one of these days.In the latest beta BIOS for the Crosshair VI Hero (9920) you can use The Stilt's timings from a preset! Very nice feature :smile:
Damn I might have to buy B-die ram one of these days.In the latest beta BIOS for the Crosshair VI Hero (9920) you can use The Stilt's timings from a preset! Very nice feature :smile:
Looking at that performance of 1GHz difference, it kinda looks to me that even 3466 14 LL settings ain't fast enough to keep 4GHz chip fully fed. Thus additional clockspeed has bad efficiency.
Ryzen core is strong, but needs stronger memory than is currently available for the platform, to run at it's full speed.
Yup, Ryzen would probably scale up to 4000+ with tight timings. They really need to work on that IMC to get faster ram supported.
I'm not sure I'd call this low hanging, although it will likely come with Zen2/3 simply from faster tech in the future.Yeah, and this kinda answers the theoritical question, if we would have Ryzen that could run at 5GHz. We simply wouldn't see great efficiency from additional clockspeed, until AMD improves their memory subsystem even further, to simply feed the beast.
Quess this is one of the low hanging fruits for zen2/3?
If they have stock and wants to buy one they will try to lower the price, if they want to sell they will try to rise it. At this point I wish I could have some money to spend to buy AMD stock now that is low, although with AMD you never know but with Lisa the company seems to be a clear north, leadership and products to get there. But its still risky or not as sure as others "opportunities" but I think theres a good chance AMD avoided become the next HTC.
Why do we think Vega will hurt AMD? (Honestly curious, I haven't been keeping up as well as I should)The real question is whether Vega will hurt share price and how much.
Why do we think Vega will hurt AMD? (Honestly curious, I haven't been keeping up as well as I should)
Back to this because someone posted the famous old 'Fuad fake' in the Vega threadAMD has been planning 2x Zeppelin + Greenland with HBM on a MCM (only Greenland & HBM on interposer, Zeppelins communicate with them with GMI-links (or is that Infinity Fabric links now?)) for a long time already
Yep, only things wrong with it are the fact that it says Zeppelin when there should be 2 and Greenland surely can't be mere "4+ TFLOPS" if it's supposed to be "highest performnace gpu". Other than that, all the codenames and such are real, confirmed much later than Fuad leaked the slideBack to this because someone posted the famous old 'Fuad fake' in the Vega thread
Knowing what we know now that sure looks a lot like a Threadripper & a Vega glued-together doesn't it?
Yup, Ryzen would probably scale up to 4000+ with tight timings. They really need to work on that IMC to get faster ram supported.
Yeah, and this kinda answers the theoritical question, if we would have Ryzen that could run at 5GHz. We simply wouldn't see great efficiency from additional clockspeed, until AMD improves their memory subsystem even further, to simply feed the beast.
Quess this is one of the low hanging fruits for zen2/3?
The memory controller is said to be (IIRC by The Stilt) very similar to the one in previous generation's Carrizo/Bristol Ridge. It is supposedly based on Synopsys off-the-shelf IP.I'm not sure I'd call this low hanging.
These results do make me want to see a design with HBM. Even lower timings and say 2x the bandwidth with out accounting for future changes. Get 32GB on a Threadripper with 1TB/s and life would be good.