All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+

[Wynix]

^ That's not surprising.
The main stock shortage was from 3 reasons(other than high demand);

1 - Sony shipped some January stock by air in time for Christmas holidays, therefore lowing January availability.
2 - Chinese New Year.
3 - Japanese Launch.

They all are one off problems(CNY won't matter next year) so supply will be much better going forward.

 

[DrJay24]

Right behind TF 360 on Amazon's hourly list is the original version..

Titans Rule the Skies—These massive airborne carriers/warships serve as home bases. In the first-ever new gameplay mode in the Battlefield universe, teams must work together to destroy the enemy Titan.

Battlefield 2142 Deluxe Edition for $0.99!

amazon April 1-8 sales rankings: #4 PS4, #5 TF 360, #8 PS4 Camera, #14 Infamous, #17 XB1 TF bundle, #54 TF XB1

 

[Rangers]

Tough week in Japan. apparently there was some new tax this week, so console purchases plummeted.

Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2014 (Mar 31 - Apr 06)

PS4 almost crossing streams with PS3.

 

[Shortbread]

Sony PS4 (Japan) really needs some compelling Japanese games - soon.

 

[Shortbread]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/10/infamous-second-son-sold-over-1-million-copies-in-nine-days

Global sales of Infamous: Second Son exceeded over 1 million copies within the first nine days following launch, information released by Sony Computer Entertainment Australia has revealed.

 

[DieH@rd]

Well deserved.

 

[Wynix]

I think the new tax increase has come at a bad time for video game companies in japan, seems like it will hinder growth in a time when they need it most.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/10/infamous-second-son-sold-over-1-million-copies-in-nine-days

Well deserved, i hope it has good legs.

 

[Rangers]

Target seems to have removed the $50 Xone discount, it's back to 499 in store and online. Gamestop never had the sale as it's retailer driven and not from MS.

Wal Mart, Amazon, and Best Buy still have the discount it seems, for now. Hopefully Target will be forced to rejoin them.

Also, I saw two PS4's behind the glass at Wal Mart tonight. I may have, but at least I dont recall ever seeing PS4's at a Wal Mart before. Another sign of better availability I imagine.

 

[djskribbles]

PS4 availability was definitely much better in the second half of March, but I think it will be too late and fall a bit short of the XB1 in March's NPD next week. I think PS4 still comfortably outsold the XB1 worldwide though.

 

[Rangers]

Honestly I've had no idea on March NPD for a while now. I guess I would go 60-40 or 70-30 towards X1 right now, but I could have a hunch a different direction tomorrow. A couple weeks ago I was strongly leaning Xbox, but I've decided it's basically 50-50 since.

Somebody on GAF posted this (Japan sales)

PS3 first 15 weeks

01. 81.639 / 81.639
02. 42.099 / 123.738
03. 32.662 / 156.400
04. 31.436 / 187.836
05. 50.171 / 238.007
06. 70.942 / 308.949
07. 76.882 / 385.831
08. 71.727 / 457.558
09. 69.944 / 527.501
10. 25.531 / 553.032
11. 21.105 / 574.137
12. 19.996 / 594.133
13. 18.727 / 612.860
14. 23.431 / 636.291
15. 20.676 / 656.967


PS4 first 7 weeks

01. 309.154 / 309.154
02. 65.685 / 374.839
03. 35.294 / 410.133
04. 29.677 / 439.810
05. 30.201 / 470.011
06. 23.327 / 493.338
07. 13.401 / 506.739

You can see PS3 should overtake PS4 about week 10-11 launch aligned. They're even discussing that Japan market is basically dead, and what that means.

I think that was the shocker to me last gen. Going into the gen, while I was optimistic for 360, even I didn't think X360 could top PS3 (or ~tie if you wanna argue) worldwide because I assumed there was no way 360 could overcome a lot of PS3 sales in Japan. But those Japan PS3 sales ended up being quite lackluster, less than half of PS2. I didn't expect Japan falling off a console cliff.

 

[Xalion]

Somebody on GAF posted this (Japan sales)



You can see PS3 should overtake PS4 about week 10-11 launch aligned. They're even discussing that Japan market is basically dead, and what that means.

Just want to make sure I am interpreting your post correctly: The fact that the PS3 sold better during the year end party season* which is the prime gift giving season in Japan than the PS4 is selling in the middle of April after a large tax increase is proof that the console market in Japan is dead?

I hate to say it, but I think something pretty obvious has been missing in this "launch aligned sales comparison".


*The PS3 launched the 11th of November, 2006 which means Christmas fell in week 7, while new years would have been week 9, so this is the middle of the gift giving season in Japan. As I recall, Japan doesn't celebrate Christmas as strongly as the US, but this is the season where people arrange parties and give each other gifts. Probably more towards New Years than on Christmas since Japan doesn't recognize Christmas as a national holiday.

 

[DrJay24]

I can't wait until the launch aligned Japan XB1 analysis, might as well do it now, probably won't differ much.

 

[Wynix]

I think Microsoft are taking a better approach to japan; Basically wait until you have a line-up the market wants before you launch.

Though it is a lost cause for MS, there is no room for a 3rd current gen console in that market.
They may not even be enough room for two.

 

[Rangers]

Just want to make sure I am interpreting your post correctly: The fact that the PS3 sold better during the year end party season* which is the prime gift giving season in Japan than the PS4 is selling in the middle of April after a large tax increase is proof that the console market in Japan is dead?

I hate to say it, but I think something pretty obvious has been missing in this "launch aligned sales comparison".


*The PS3 launched the 11th of November, 2006 which means Christmas fell in week 7, while new years would have been week 9, so this is the middle of the gift giving season in Japan. As I recall, Japan doesn't celebrate Christmas as strongly as the US, but this is the season where people arrange parties and give each other gifts. Probably more towards New Years than on Christmas since Japan doesn't recognize Christmas as a national holiday.

Good catch. I was just repeating a Gaffer who didn't mention what you did and i didn't even think of it.

I guess there may be some value in the comparison regardless of time of year.

 

[Rangers]

X1 needs serious help in Germany...(Only X1 title in charts Titanfall at #40)

This is probably why drastic price cut or otherwise (*cough* ditching Kinect for a bigger price cut *cough* )measures are needed, for those who think they are not.


Germany:
Week 14, 2014 - Individual Formats (Units)

01 (NE) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
02 (01) PC DIABLO III: REAPER OF SOULS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
03 (02) PS4 INFAMOUS: SECOND SON (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
04 (03) PC DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
05 (08) PS4 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (07) 3DS YOSHI'S NEW ISLAND (NINTENDO)
07 (13) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
08 (05) PS3 SOUTH PARK: DER STAB DER WAHRHEIT (UBISOFT)
09 (04) PS3 FINAL FANTASY X/X-2 HD REMASTER (SQUARE ENIX / KOCH MEDIA)
10 (NE) PC AGE OF WONDERS III (EUROVIDEO)
11 (49) PC BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
12 (12) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
13 (36) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
14 (47) PS3 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
15 (11) PS4 METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES (KONAMI)
16 (06) PC SOUTH PARK: DER STAB DER WAHRHEIT (UBISOFT)
17 (53) PC CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
18 (09) 3DS PROFESSOR LAYTON VS PHOENIX WRIGHT: ACE ATTORNEY (NINTENDO)
19 (31) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
20 (14) PS3 DARK SOULS II (BANDAI NAMCO GAMES)
21 (23) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS V - SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
22 (19) PS4 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
23 (16) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
24 (30) PS3 THE ELDER SCROLLS V - SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
25 (24) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
26 (__) PS3 NHL 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
27 (10) 360 SOUTH PARK: DER STAB DER WAHRHEIT (UBISOFT)
28 (21) 3DS ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF (NINTENDO)
29 (15) PC TITANFALL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
30 (22) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
31 (78) PS3 BEYOND: TWO SOULS (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
32 (35) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
33 (83) PS3 BATMAN: ARKHAM ORIGINS (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
34 (18) PS3 METAL GEAR SOLID V: GROUND ZEROES (KONAMI)
35 (27) 360 MINECRAFT - XBOX 360 EDITION (AK TRONIC)
36 (29) 3DS MARIO KART 7 (NINTENDO)
37 (__) PS3 NBA 2K14 (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
38 (26) PS4 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
39 (37) 3DS POKÉMON X (NINTENDO)
40 (17) XBO TITANFALL (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
41 (84) PS3 FAR CRY 3 - LIMITED EDITION (UBISOFT)
42 (66) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: MODERN WARFARE 3 (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
43 (32) PS3 GRAN TURISMO 6 (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
44 (28) WIU DONKEY KONG COUNTRY: TROPICAL FREEZE (NINTENDO)
45 (39) 3DS POKÉMON Y (NINTENDO)
46 (61) 360 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
47 (__) PC FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
48 (71) 360 THE ELDER SCROLLS V - SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
49 (42) PS4 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
50 (33) PS4 KILLZONE: SHADOW FALL (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)

Top 50

PS3 - 19
PC - 10
PS4 - 8
3DS - 6
360 - 5
XBO - 1
WIU - 1

I'm guessing PC is perhaps the dominant platform in Germany, since this is only retail sales, and I'm sure a huge portion of PC sales are digital.

 

[Rangers]

PS4 is REALLY hitting stock. even checking local stores inventory usually shows PS4. Gamestop, Best Buy, even most Wal Mart's near me. And as I mentioned my last two trips to Wal Mart I've seen PS4's.

If it holds up April should show an even much less supply constrained picture for PS4 than March. In march We had Amazon, some other online, and some B&M and we started getting more brick and mortar but still choppy.

Sony must be REALLY pushing these out.

BTW I was able to check a couple wholesale prices across the supply chain recently. PS4 wholesales for ~$387, and by chance I was able to check 360 Kinect, it wholesales for about $95 against a $110 MSRP. So Kinect is a lot more profitable per dollar for a store than a stand alone PS4 console. Stands to reason I suppose, not only is it older, but it's more of an "accessory".

So, the new consoles are not providing more profit margin to retailers, if anything based on memory perhaps a little less (maybe because it's early and they are more in demand). I was not able to check an Xbox One at this time, but I'd guess it's a similarly slim margin to PS4.

 

[Strange]

PS4 is REALLY hitting stock. even checking local stores inventory usually shows PS4. Gamestop, Best Buy, even most Wal Mart's near me. And as I mentioned my last two trips to Wal Mart I've seen PS4's.

If it holds up April should show an even much less supply constrained picture for PS4 than March. In march We had Amazon, some other online, and some B&M and we started getting more brick and mortar but still choppy.

Sony must be REALLY pushing these out.

BTW I was able to check a couple wholesale prices across the supply chain recently. PS4 wholesales for ~$387, and by chance I was able to check 360 Kinect, it wholesales for about $95 against a $110 MSRP. So Kinect is a lot more profitable per dollar for a store than a stand alone PS4 console. Stands to reason I suppose, not only is it older, but it's more of an "accessory".

So, the new consoles are not providing more profit margin to retailers, if anything based on memory perhaps a little less (maybe because it's early and they are more in demand). I was not able to check an Xbox One at this time, but I'd guess it's a similarly slim margin to PS4.

Kinect is more profitable per dollar only when someone buys it. It doesn't matter if its wholesale is $1 and sells for $1000 if nobody buys it.

 

[(((interference)))]

Where are the March NPD numbers?

 

[AzBat]

Where are the March NPD numbers?

Thursday April 17. Yeah, feels a little later than usual to me too.

Tommy McClain

 

[Deleted member 11852]

So, the new consoles are not providing more profit margin to retailers, if anything based on memory perhaps a little less (maybe because it's early and they are more in demand).

Profit and margins are in software and accessories. I wonder how many folks buy a new console but don't buy anything else with it.

Retailers have to carry low-margin items to shift high-margin items, any profit margin is critical for them. Amazon and GAME have lost sales due to me buying digital (AC4, Infamous Second Son, Tomb Raider DE, Lego Marvel Super Heroes, Thief) vs disc (BF4, Killzone Shadow Fall). I'll be buying Watch_Dogs digitally too. Sorry retailers, waiting until 9am to go to a store or waiting for something to be delivered is in my history. Games ready to play at the crack of dawn are my future.