All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+

[BRiT]

Same here on my consoles due to preloading. Every single one has been ready to run when i wanted to.

 

[Shortbread]

Holy crap, hyperbole much? What games did you play on console? Or is this an xbox thing, having to wait an hour before you can play?

Every one of my games this gen was ready to play within 60 seconds without ever having to install anything. If it ever did, it was done in background while I play. I have a PC with a 780 and I still play 90% of the time on consoles. The same will be true for VR despite the fact that I will own both VR headsets.

Exactly. You can play PS4 games (or the actual game) while they are getting patched in the background. Hell, you can surf the PS Store for about 5-10 minutes and your game is patched. The largest patch I ever downloaded (7GB) took roughly 4 minutes to install.

 

[Shortbread]

Which, if anything, demonstrates all the more reason why MS would want to kill off threads like these

Yes, when your competitor is beating you quite largely in worldwide sales... it makes sense on doing so. It's a business decision - a reasonable decision at that. But don't think for one second, if the shoe wasn't on the other foot (XB1 leading in worldwide sales), that MS wouldn't be trumpeting it's own internal/external warriors on the glories of being in the Xbox family. But it is what it is at this point...

 

[djskribbles]

Exactly. You can play PS4 games (or the actual game) while they are getting patched in the background. Hell, you can surf the PS Store for about 5-10 minutes and your game is patched. The largest patch I ever downloaded (7GB) took roughly 4 minutes to install.

Yeah on PS4 you can play while downloading patches in the background, you just can't play multiplayer until the patch is installed. Plus games install in chunks and are ready to be played in usually 1-2 minutes or less. And for your already installed games, if you leave your PS4 in standby, the PS4 downloads patches automatically.

 

[DieH@rd]

And for your already installed games, if you leave your PS4 in standby, the PS4 downloads patches automatically.

This actually works automatically only for games that are played recently. Games that were not started in a while get patches when the game is started [local version is booted while patches get downloaded in the background].

They probably did this to preserve bandwith of the users. For example, if I had installed and played Witcher back in May, I would not like to download bigass ~10gig patch now if I haven't started that game in several months.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

They probably did this to preserve bandwith of the users. For example, if I had installed and played Witcher back in May, I would not like to download bigass ~10gig patch now if I haven't started that game in several months.

Do you know what the cut off is? I literally have not played The Witcher 3 in months (since I completed the main story line) and patches 1.10 and 1.11 were both downloaded by my PS4 automatically.

 

[DieH@rd]

I don't know. But for example, automatic patching for Share Factory and Resogun was restarted after I fired them up recently. I did not touch them for 6+ months both.

 

[DrJay24]

I think it is the last ten games played, not time.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

I think it is the last ten games played, not time.

That would explain my experiences.

 

[bgroovy]

I think it is the last ten games played, not time.

That's what it was on PS3. My understanding was now it's anything you've launched in the last 30 days. Maybe it's a combination of the two metrics.

 

[DrJay24]

I don't see Halo 5 pushing a lot of consoles in October. Amazon has one XB1 (Halo 5 bundle) in the top 40, while four PS4 bundles are in the top 40. If you go out to the top 100 you only get one more PS4 bundle. This lines up with my theory that most Halo fans bought the XB1 around MCC or at launch. I would also guess most people buying the $499 Halo 5 bundle are existing XB1 owners, the mega fans who will keep their original console as a secondary or sell it.

 

[Clukos]

I think the hype around it is pretty lukewarm mostly because of the damage done by MCC. In the long run i think it'll sell pretty well with Forge and BTB on the way multiplayer should be pretty lively for months, hopefully years.

 

[Shortbread]

I would also guess most people buying the $499 Halo 5 bundle are existing XB1 owners, the mega fans who will keep their original console as a secondary or sell it.

Pretty much. I think MS is just maximizing returns (profits) off the current premium Halo bundle with the diehard loyalist. Come Black Friday, the magical price drop of $399 for the bundle and $299 for the core esystem.

 

[Prophecy2k]

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Well, given how console cycles work, the nice thing for them is they probably have 2-3 years where the number is guaranteed to grow as the XBO userbase does (contrary to a lot of the comments here, it's actually not selling negative consoles each month), and after that 2-3 years they can come up with some other BS..

This will be true in the long term, but I wonder whether it will be so in the short term, especially with many previous 360 gamers upgrading to PS4 instead of the XB1 (assuming this MAU figure includes 360 gamers too - no reason why not).

Which is why I think it's funny they choose now to start reporting these silly wooly metrics instead of hw shipments. I think it's pretty clear that XB1 is not selling well outside of the US (and possibly UK).

 

[upnorthsox]

This will be true in the long term, but I wonder whether it will be so in the short term, especially with many previous 360 gamers upgrading to PS4 instead of the XB1 (assuming this MAU figure includes 360 gamers too - no reason why not).

Which is why I think it's funny they choose now to start reporting these silly wooly metrics instead of hw shipments. I think it's pretty clear that XB1 is not selling well outside of the US (and possibly UK).

So what are you saying then, that XboxLive numbers are going to be held up by new PC membership?

 

[Shortbread]

So what are you saying then, that XboxLive numbers are going to be held up by new PC membership?

Let's be honest, MS isn't just counting XBL XB1 paid accounts only. I'm pretty sure their figures will include all platforms within the MS XBL ecosystem.

 

[DieH@rd]

Yes, Monthly Active Users number MS gave includes Gold [paid] and Silver [free] XBL accounts on all supported platforms.

 

[chris1515]

http://www.capital.fr/bourse/actualites/jeux-video-en-france-aussi-sony-ecrase-microsoft-1081415

In France it is 4 PS4 sold for 1 Xbox One sold. End of 2015, they think it will be 2,2 millions of PS4 against 500k Xbox One.

 

[Rangers]

Not so bad. It's been obvious from the charts France is between UK and Germany for Xbox affinity. Quite a few Xbox One games make the France weekly top 5. I think a few weeks ago it even had #1 though I forget the game, maybe Forza 6?

 

[chris1515]

Not so bad. It's been obvious from the charts France is between UK and Germany for Xbox affinity. Quite a few Xbox One games make the France weekly tp 5. I think a few weeks ago it even had #1 though I forget the game, maybe Forza 6?

Not so bad? Last number in Germany if we only consider PS4 and Xbox One number the marketshare of PS4 was 88%. In France it will maybe be 81% end of 2015... It is a big domination and after 2016 it will be worse(90% marketshare for PS4 on continental Europe maybe). In Tiers 2 country sometimes PS4 have more than 90% marketshare...

MS lost many 360 player in Europe...