All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+
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The weird thing about PS4 ship is USA sales are down year over year for the quarter (915k vs 767k), but shipments were up quite a bit. 4.0 million vs 3.3 YoY IIRC.
Japan (the other place we get routine sales) are indeed up YoY, but are a relatively small factor.
At least for the last quarter, PS sales weren't even 3:1, 4:1 vs US. But over 5:1! I expect that's going to normalize back to ~3:1 over time as historically the case.
So, probably just an oddball quarter, and I noticed a long time ago that Sony tends to put more holiday shipments in the Jul-Sep quarter vs MS.
Still, looking at the overall picture, almost 30 million already puts it in perspective, by January you'll be able to say nearly 40 million (should be at least 36).
Or heck, it's already way past the Gamecube (22 million IIRC) and Xbox's (25 million) lifetime sales.
I'd guess the Xbox One at 16.2 million shipped (as always, using a simple doubling of the 8.1 million USA sales). They should be well over 20 million after the holidays, probably ~22 million perhaps if they sell similar to last year in the states.
Edit: all those PS4 sales with what could be described as "no games". Let that be a lesson to you console makers...
Japan (the other place we get routine sales) are indeed up YoY, but are a relatively small factor.
At least for the last quarter, PS sales weren't even 3:1, 4:1 vs US. But over 5:1! I expect that's going to normalize back to ~3:1 over time as historically the case.
So, probably just an oddball quarter, and I noticed a long time ago that Sony tends to put more holiday shipments in the Jul-Sep quarter vs MS.
Still, looking at the overall picture, almost 30 million already puts it in perspective, by January you'll be able to say nearly 40 million (should be at least 36).
Or heck, it's already way past the Gamecube (22 million IIRC) and Xbox's (25 million) lifetime sales.
I'd guess the Xbox One at 16.2 million shipped (as always, using a simple doubling of the 8.1 million USA sales). They should be well over 20 million after the holidays, probably ~22 million perhaps if they sell similar to last year in the states.
Edit: all those PS4 sales with what could be described as "no games". Let that be a lesson to you console makers...
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Wii U sales from Nintendo fiscal, .72 million for the Jul-Sep quarter. 1.27 million 3DS. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1130801
And it was posted on GAF that Wii U has overtaken Dreamcast.
Also, saw on GAF NPD October due out Nov 12 just two weeks, quick turnaround (assuming NPD dont delay it like they do half the time, incompetent buggers). Cool.
I guess it's not as big as November NPD, but with Halo 5 vs PS4 price drop it's still a pretty big one.
And it was posted on GAF that Wii U has overtaken Dreamcast.
Also, saw on GAF NPD October due out Nov 12 just two weeks, quick turnaround (assuming NPD dont delay it like they do half the time, incompetent buggers). Cool.
I guess it's not as big as November NPD, but with Halo 5 vs PS4 price drop it's still a pretty big one.
ZhugeEX
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The reason for higher PS4 shipments this quarter is due to increased consumer demand, new shipments of CUH-1200 series and stocking the channel before the price cut takes effect in October around the world. The majority of PS4's sold in October (price cut month) will have been sold in during September.
Imagine if Sony were still recording production units, number would be huge
Just FYI, GAF is wrong on this one. The Dreamcast actually sold in 9.13 million units LT. Wii U passed Dreamcast back in Holiday 2014.
Also NPD is always released on the second thursday of the month. So that's how you can know when NPD releases.
(Spills coffee) whilst the xbox 360 had roughly a 55% ratio for USA sales, the xbox one is looking ratio wise way down on the 360 based on actual released numbers outside of the usa.
Even in your wildest dreams, How on earth does it have a similar ratio when when the 360 released in most countries roughly at the same time, yet the xbone didnt release for months afterward in a lot of countries after the states. I would say The true ratio is ~66% USA (rest of world 33%)
djskribbles
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We had this debate earlier in this thread. Rangers thinks the split between USA vs the rest of the word is 50/50, which not even the XB360 had AFAIK. I'm guessing the USA makes up for 55-60% (closer to 60) of XB1 sales, and that it's between 15-15.5M shipped as of the end of September.
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Yes, I know that. Just hadn't been keeping track really. Nice to know it's in only two weeks. Returning to a 4 week month plus last one delayed makes it feel faster.
Also there was (is?) some other rule that I used to know about NPD, something like if the first Thursday of the month fell before the 3rd, then NPD was pushed back to the third Thursday. Something weird like that.
Actually X360 was almost exactly 2:1. They last announced 84 million shipped, and at that time 360 in NPD was around 42 million.
Your number is reasonable though I'd go higher, and I'd bet on it TBH. The unreasonables are the people who probably claim it hasn't even shipped 12-13 million yet.
Also recall world shipments always seem to have some "fudge" surplus in them. Such that adding (or making good guesstimates) known sales never seems to quiet account for all of them. Sales are a hard number and shipments a soft number. It's not that I dont believe shipped numbers, it's just there must be some "overhead" in there. Maybe demo units, developer units, contest/giveaways, something to do with refurbs maybe even, and who knows what.
I'm wondering if MS will ever provide another XBO shipment tally this gen (maybe when it hits a nice round number like 20 million). I hope so, but maybe not. It'll just be seized on by the media and compared to PS4, so that's why they may not.
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XB1 U.S. sales are 10-12% greater than all other XB1 territories combined. XB1 worldwide sales are more than likely sitting at 14.5-15 million at best. And judging by ZhugeEX recent data, that seems about right.
Edit: It also seems XB1 sales are starting to normalize with PS3 sales (launch aligned). A decrease, rather than an increase keeping it above PS3 sales.
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djskribbles
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Yeah I doubt XB1 shipments are higher than 15.5M. My guess is just over 15M.
edit: I suppose if their Halo bundles are included in September then it could be a bit higher than 15.5M, but I bet it's still under 16M.
BTW, good deal on amazon.com right now... Nathan Drake PS4 bundle + Destiny Taken King for 349.99.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rue&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
edit: I suppose if their Halo bundles are included in September then it could be a bit higher than 15.5M, but I bet it's still under 16M.
BTW, good deal on amazon.com right now... Nathan Drake PS4 bundle + Destiny Taken King for 349.99.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rue&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
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Lara can't be happy either. Nobody buys her game and you get her name wrong.
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edit - personally, I feel there is very little hype about this game online. Marketing was not effective, and a lot of people are aither still not happy with how this exclusivity deal was presented to the public, or are waiting for cheaper PC/PS4 versions.
edit - personally, I feel there is very little hype about this game online. Marketing was not effective, and a lot of people are aither still not happy with how this exclusivity deal was presented to the public, or are waiting for cheaper PC/PS4 versions.
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The Aaron Greenberg interview was interesting but I think Microsoft have miscalculated in putting Rise (a single player game) against Fallout 4 (another single player game). I think a better bet would have been stacking it against a multiplayer game and put it out before Fallout because a lot of Fallout fans (like me) are going to be playing Fallout for a long, long time and will just pickup Rise when it's cheap.
My hype for Fallout has eroded enthusiasm for Rise and I loved 2013 Tomb Raider and do want to play Rise but I just want to play Fallout a damn sight more and unless Fallout is a bloody mess (get it?) Rise isn't going to get a look in
My hype for Fallout has eroded enthusiasm for Rise and I loved 2013 Tomb Raider and do want to play Rise but I just want to play Fallout a damn sight more and unless Fallout is a bloody mess (get it?) Rise isn't going to get a look in
Oops, sorry Lara, erm.. Ms. Croft.
Noooo! Leave that chicken alone!
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That's Lady Croft to you, pal!
Ok, so basically they're forecasting 10.5 million the next two quarters. That gives us some insight, Jan-March 2016 will probably be something like 3.5 million, which leaves 7 million for Oct-Dec.
Xbox One by my calculations/based on last year, will probably sell around 3 million in the states thus ship 6 million in Oct-Dec. That's in line with norms, the gap closes a lot for Xbox in holiday quarters.
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