All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+

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Rangers said:
So this seems like a normal distribution of car brands to people?

http://www.best-selling-cars.com/japan/2014-full-year-japan-best-selling-car-models/

I definitely think some cultures are less open than others, and there's none more open than the "melting pot" USA. Since we are nothing but a mishmash of people from someplace else...

But I know, not this again...
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And Apple for smartphone and windows for PC are dominant. You need to have a good product.

The OG Xbox kill the brand in Japan.
 
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Brand is important if you remember Nielsen survey Xbox is a better brand than playstation in US. In UK Xbox is too a good brand but less dominant.

In rest of the world Playstation is a better brand in continental Europe they were able to beat the Xbox 360 with a 600 euros console with 1 year headstart for 360...
 
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What are the prices of those cars versus European and American alternatives? What are the specs? Do import designs suit the poky roads and congestion and automated car-parks of Japanese cities? Japanese culture is very strong and clearly they'll prefer products that fit that culture, which are home grown as the home designers have the best handle on the local market. It hasn't anything to do with snubbing other nations though. eg. 75% of smartphone sales were American and Korean handsets.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20140831/GLOBAL02/309019963/why-gm-struggles-in-japan
The German brands have flourished in Japan, even as the Detroit 3's fortunes fade. Their downfall, says Ide: "lack of effort."...GM has factories in right-hand-drive countries, but their vehicles often don't fit Japan. Australia's passenger cars are too big; South Africa churns out mostly trucks; England's small cars find it hard to compete in Japan's crowded small-car market. India's operations are just getting started.

[...] It's a chicken-and-egg problem. It's often not worthwhile to introduce a right-hand-drive version because sales are so low. And sales are so low in part because there are no right-handers.
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It's the wrong product for the market, or one where the local competition is so strong there's no need to go with anyone new and untrusted. I don't imagine US cheese sells as well in France as French cheese either - what's the point in importing cheese when the local produce is exactly what you want?

So, again, if MS made the right product for the Japanese market that had a competitive USP and good support making it a more desirable product, they'd get the sales. The lack of MS impact in Japan is because they are unable to compete there, and not the easy excuse of blaming the locals for being racist/nationalistic.
 
I obviously didn't mean literally! There's many factors brand loyalty seems to be quite a popular idea yet that swings from generation to generation.

The RRoD may have been an issue that affected loyalty, and as mentioned USA (like the UK) are very open to other cultures/ideas compared to other countries and that's their biggest markets.
 
American gamers are very Mountain Dew, Dorrito, Call of Duty, Madden minded gamers. These things were and are still synonymous with the Xbox name. Playstation has been associated with Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid, not so dude-bro.
 
And MS even acquired Witcher 3 marketing rights. Witcher 2 was Xbox 360 console exclusive.

Result: even in US 60% sold on PS4.
 
Rikimaru said:
And MS even acquired Witcher 3 marketing rights. Witcher 2 was Xbox 360 console exclusive.

Result: even in US 60% sold on PS4.
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Doesn't that tend to track with the hardware ratios, 1.5:1 ?
 
djskribbles said:
No, I think the PS4 only has a ~700k lead in the US.
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In that case I have two thoughts,
A) The marketing didn't work
B) The marketing worked, and the sales would have been even more lopsided than the 60:40 split for the first few weeks of sales without it.
 
BRiT said:
In that case I have two thoughts,
A) The marketing didn't work
B) The marketing worked, and the sales would have been even more lopsided than the 60:40 split for the first few weeks of sales without it.
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It does not matter. Both cases lead to PS4 having more RPG audience.
 
BRiT said:
In that case I have two thoughts,
A) The marketing didn't work
B) The marketing worked, and the sales would have been even more lopsided than the 60:40 split for the first few weeks of sales without it.
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C) XB1 users are still very much rooted (from XB360) as primarily being diehard 1st person gamers... while, everything else is secondary (see below).

Amazon’s Top 100 Best Sellers of 2015 (06/13/15)
12. Bloodborne PS4
16. GTA V PS4
21. FarCry 4 PS4
23. Mortal Kombat X PS4
29. Halo: MCC XB1
32. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare XB1
33. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare PS4
36. GTA V XB1
37. NBA 2K 15 PS4
39. Final Fantasy Type-0 HD PS4
45. NBA 2K 15 XB1
47. Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor PS4
48. Assassin’s Creed Unity PS4
49. FarCry 4 XB1
51. Dying Light PS4
53. Destiny PS4
55. Destiny XB1
66. The Order 1886 PS4
70. Battlefield Hardline PS4
80. FIFA 15 PS4
82. Infamous: Second Son PS4
83. Dragon Age Inquisition PS4
88. Dying Light XB1
93. Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor XB1
96. Bloodborne Collector’s Edition PS4
98. Battlefield Hardline XB1

So, 6 of the 9 games that are presented for the XB1, are 1st person shooters. While, 5 of the 17 games that are presented for PS4, are 1st person shooters.
 
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Rikimaru said:
Shipping cost (and time), small population size.
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Mate my post is obviously sarcasm, NZ like all countries except for perhaps north Korea has taken part in globalisation
Rangers said:
and there's none more open than the "melting pot" USA. Since we are nothing but a mishmash of people from someplace else...
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Well you know that open melting pot of the USA, now walk down the road you see those foreign born people, well if you done the same thing here in nz, for every single person in the states you see, you'll see nearly two in NZ.

btw my last 2 cars were american (fords)
 
Shortbread said:
C) XB1 users are still very much rooted (from XB360) as primarily being diehard 1st person gamers... while, everything else is secondary (see below).

Amazon’s Top 100 Best Sellers of 2015 (06/13/15)
12. Bloodborne PS4
16. GTA V PS4
21. FarCry 4 PS4
23. Mortal Kombat X PS4
29. Halo: MCC XB1
32. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare XB1
33. Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare PS4
36. GTA V XB1
37. NBA 2K 15 PS4
39. Final Fantasy Type-0 HD PS4
45. NBA 2K 15 XB1
47. Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor PS4
48. Assassin’s Creed Unity PS4
49. FarCry 4 XB1
51. Dying Light PS4
53. Destiny PS4
55. Destiny XB1
66. The Order 1886 PS4
70. Battlefield Hardline PS4
80. FIFA 15 PS4
82. Infamous: Second Son PS4
83. Dragon Age Inquisition PS4
88. Dying Light XB1
93. Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor XB1
96. Bloodborne Collector’s Edition PS4
98. Battlefield Hardline XB1

So, 6 of the 9 games that are presented for the XB1, are 1st person shooters. While, 5 of the 17 games that are presented for PS4, are 1st person shooters.
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Those Destiny numbers look close for a game that had marketing partnership with Sony... Anybody have an idea what sales are for both platforms including digital?
 
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