Per Creamsugar @gaf....
So...
PS4: 152K
XB1: 139K
WiiU: 42.5K
TW3: 700K units (60% on PS4).
So...
PS4: 152K
XB1: 139K
WiiU: 42.5K
TW3: 700K units (60% on PS4).
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All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+
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XB1 ~= PS4 in US, it seems now. That's a pretty good recovery. At this rate it'll be nigh impossible for PS4 to get a critical mass and landslide XB1 out of relevance for the rest of the gen.
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PS4 costs more now. We'll see what happens when they go to $349 too. They did cost reduced CUH-1200 recently.
I agree that US sales will not be lopsided in Sony's favor. However, worldwide sales are very lopsided in Sony's favor... and more than likely will continue to be this generation. IMHO, I can't picture or see how MS could erase a 12-13 million deficit (gap) this year or the next, with America alone. Especially trying to stop the gap from growing further out, when all the other territories (specifically the EU territories) are consistently swinging in Sony's favor.
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Isn't that larger than the total gap between PS3 and 360 in the US, over their lifetimes?
If PS4 cannot win these slower months by much though, they'll need to do much better in the holidays to keep pace. Last November+December Xbox One won by a combined 635k. So a 13k victory either way in May doesn't mean much.
So far in the first 5 months of 2015 PS4 has a +217k lead though, not too bad. Mainly helped by a +76k in February and +101k in March.
So far in the first 5 months of 2015 PS4 has a +217k lead though, not too bad. Mainly helped by a +76k in February and +101k in March.
In terms of the race, MS can't 'win'. But in terms of the platform, the only thing that matters to consumers is if it is a solid platform that's not dying. As long as sales remain not much worse than 2:1, that'll be the case, and 2:1 is maintained by MS selling as much as Sony in US even if they sell almost nothing else worldwide (as long as Japan/Asia doesn't return to PS2 levels of console gamery).
The max gap was 11 millions. I think US alone will never close the gap. And Xbox 360 sells better than Xbox One on continental Europe...
Seeing as sales have slowed I think a price cut at e3 is a shoe in.
Then we'll see how the land truly lies.
I cannot see a positive for ms in costing less and still being outsold all be it by a small margin on their home turf where people have a preference for buying 'American'.
Then we'll see how the land truly lies.
I cannot see a positive for ms in costing less and still being outsold all be it by a small margin on their home turf where people have a preference for buying 'American'.
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In theory if PS4 and Xbox One sales are at the same level than PS3 and 360, Microsoft need a better ratio for Xbone against PS4 than 360/ PS3 in US/UK to be at the same level of sales than PS4 at end of generation.
I think it is impossible... In Spain PS3:360 ratio was 2 to 1 it is now 7 PS4 for 1Xbox One... Compared to 360 Xbox One lost ground in every country not only UK and US... Maybe Microsoft can beat Sony in US but I doubt it will be the same in UK and Sony PS4 sales is and will continue to destroy Microsoft Xbox One sales in continental Europe.
Console are a dead end in Japan but some of the Japan Sales will be covered by emergent market and Sony did an announcement during fiscal conference call about 80% of marketshare in emergent market.
If Sony sells more than 5 millions PS4 in Japan it will be incredible...
I think it is impossible... In Spain PS3:360 ratio was 2 to 1 it is now 7 PS4 for 1Xbox One... Compared to 360 Xbox One lost ground in every country not only UK and US... Maybe Microsoft can beat Sony in US but I doubt it will be the same in UK and Sony PS4 sales is and will continue to destroy Microsoft Xbox One sales in continental Europe.
Console are a dead end in Japan but some of the Japan Sales will be covered by emergent market and Sony did an announcement during fiscal conference call about 80% of marketshare in emergent market.
If Sony sells more than 5 millions PS4 in Japan it will be incredible...
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We don't have a preference for buying products from American companies, we have a preference for buying products produced and marketed with the American market in mind. Country of origin (barring any negative association with that specific country) has very little bearing on US consumer purchasing decisions for most classes of products. Even with cars, where there are practical reasons why US consumers might prefer domestic products, only 4 of the top 10 selling vehicles are from US automakers (and 3 of those are pickup trucks).
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I think it's be proven in every discussion on this subject here that there's no nation so nationalistic that they prefer their own products simply out of nationalism. The right product/brand can and does sell anywhere, at least in strong markets.
Silent_Buddha
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Hell, just walk into one of America's largest superstore chains, Walmart, and see how much foreign products outnumber US made products. Even the Beef sold there is from Canada and not the US.
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thats crazy, here in NZ, with our walmart equivilant everything is 100% nz made, no chinese goods at all cause we are stuck in the 1960sHell, just walk into one of America's largest superstore chains, Walmart, and see how much foreign products outnumber US made products. Even the Beef sold there is from Canada and not the US.
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I tend to agree, but what I will say is that often people are encouraged to buy products 'made' in their country to support their economy. You have to wonder why a games console that is (apparently) so similar to the PS4 sells next to nothing in Japan and is heavily outsold in every other country.
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I do not know why you wonder. All Xboxes had reliability issues, and bad japanese support from publishers (aside some with 360). 360 scratching discs almost nullifies trade value in Japan. RROD.
Xbox One often does not even have japanese releases where western exist (Destiny). And it's weaker, bulky, ugly, worse OS.
There are a lot of reasons. You just need to think about it more. Also PlayStation always had a better games diversity, internal studios. Labeling Xbox as shooter box is not unjustified.
Extraordinarily dubious claim. Everything's made in China these days and imported! I can't think of a single British made electronics item and more. All our consumer electronics products (70s, 80s) were overpriced shite compared to the Japanese so we all bought imports because they were better. And that's how it always is in a free market. If someone says to you, "can you buy this regionally designed and built mobile phone/car/TV because, although it's not as good as the import and is less reliable and is more expensive, you'll support the economy," are you going to sacrifice your own personal experience for the greater good? No, which is why China et al are booming! A product sells if it's the right product at the right price. No-one factors in the good of the economy into their purchasing decisions save maybe well paid economists who can afford to.
Because it's so similar, why pick it over PS4? It's not as powerful, priced the same, and doesn't have the regionally interesting content. Nationality has squat to do with it rather than locally made products tending to better match local tastes. That's why XBox did so well in US - it was designed by Americans and had an American aesthetic/identity that appealed to American consumers more than other nations with different tastes. That's also why XB does extra well in the UK where the cultural cross-over makes XB a good fit with UK consumers.
If XB1 was the right product at the right price for the Japanese market, the Japanese would have bought it in droves.
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