Gut feeling & I never said otherwise. But I'm not the only one in this thread that is making opinions without facts. I also I wasn't the first one to do so. I'm just the one you don't agree with.
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Gut feeling & I never said otherwise. But I'm not the only one in this thread that is making opinions without facts. I also I wasn't the first one to do so. I'm just the one you don't agree with.
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I honestly don't remember. But if you check the times, I edited my post at 9:50 and you replied at 10:20. If what you say is true, then perhaps I put November but realized I meant BF. I did not intentionally 'move the goal posts', because regardless, I think that the PS4 outsold the XB1 on BF, and for the month of November (worldwide).
While VGChartz isn't a credible source, they have more sources of sales data than anyone here. These are their worldwide November numbers:
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PS4: 2,862,237
XB1: 2,468,065And BF week sales:
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PS4: 1,193,346
XB1: 1,115,990US only BF sales:
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PS4: 554,350
XB1: 721,569So according to them, what the PS4 sold outside of the US more than made up for the deficit in the US, which is reasonable to expect considering how dominant the X360 was in the US, yet the PS3 managed to sell at least as many consoles worldwide.
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Had you said monthly instead of BF when I first read your post I would have never replied. BTW, I'm bad about quoting a post immediately after reading it & then taking a half an hour or longer to finish my post cause I'm doing other stuff(I'm a little bit ADD). So I suspect that's why I still had the original post quoted.
As for the VGA Chartz figures, they're interesting, but they're for the whole week. You may still be right about Friday though. However, I don't think we'll ever get figures(US or otherwise) for just Black Friday. But I've been wrong before.
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As for the VGA Chartz figures, they're interesting, but they're for the whole week. You may still be right about Friday though. However, I don't think we'll ever get figures(US or otherwise) for just Black Friday. But I've been wrong before.
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No what Im referring to is what has has happened,
in 2013 the asia region had the biggest revenue from gaming
sure a lot is mobile / online
but the days of NA being the biggest are gone and decreasing with each year
Im sure you can find the data as gamasutra.com
edit: couldnt really find but found this
I think what I read grouped some of the pacific etc into the europe as PAL regions thus asia smaller and PAL bigger
but you can see what I mean ASIA massive and growing fast
NA nice to have but ASIA is where the cash is at, plus it has slow growth
this pains me as a part yank, why arent we buying more games?
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It's a huge stretch to trust Vgchartz numbers, but if their BF week sales WW numbers are somewhat accurate, it's almost certain that the One outsold PS4 WW during that Friday only. Even with PS4 having way more sales volume in the world in general, the numbers in just a one day simply aren't very large and Black Friday is not a thing outside of US. As it stands it's basically the one day during the whole year that something like that could happen and imo seems very logical that it did.
Does that matter though?
Does that matter though?
Not by me. I think it could increase in importance and already be a decent secondary market, though. That much seems obvious. But I wouldn't place it up with established larger markets (such as, France) at all unless we see evidence that is the case.
We really haven't had any sales figures out of there to make heads or tails of it, except the 100k/shipped/sold/whatever Xbox One figure.
Probably not worldwide, no. But, it seems X1 is doing quite well in December too. If Ps4's LTD was ~1million ahead (in USA), and X1 wins Nov and Dec by ~300k each, these are all just "ifs" but they seem at least plausible now is my point, ~600k could cut substantially into the PS4's USA lead over the holidays. To the point where X1 eventually retaking the USA lead wouldn't be out of the question, which would be a new angle.
These are all just "if's" considering we dont even have November NPD in yet, and are basically going off Amazon and a few retail anecdotes.
Right, when they update their made up bullshit numbers to reflect reality it is not a bad thing. You just have to remember not to trust any of their numbers until you see it elsewhere from an official statement or PR release.
tl,dr: only historical good, current or predictive bad.
Agreed although I think bs is a bit harsh. Their methods can be critiqued for the flaws but they try. I would not use them for anything other than historical data to be clear.
Edit: some of the corrections at times have suggested they have some good sources. But again I don't think those reference points are available for anything current or if they are they don't offer much till much later.
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Sure, I had just assumed you were still taking about consoles since this is a console oriented sales thread. Hence, it has potential, but isn't there yet.
There's also a few things to note about that.
Other than the Korean (which is predominantly PC over even smartphones), Australian and New Zealand markets, most of them do not purchase official packaged games in any significant numbers.
So the vast majority of that money (so ignoring the whole pirated games industry) is going into...
Smartphone games.
F2P games (dominated by PC).
MMO-games (dominated by PC).
All of the most popular MMO-games also being of the F2P variety. Except for Korea, where WoW does very well for a subscription based MMO.
Which goes back to what I said. WRT the console market. Everything is small potatoes compared to NA and Europe, with NA taking a notable lead.
And with Japan's relevance shrinking as a percentage and in overall sales (numerous Japanese development houses think this may be the last console generation where they target Japanese gamers as well as a few thinking this is the last generation of consoles for Japan, period.), that means the share of the rest of the world compared to NA and Europe (again WRT consoles) is actually shrinking.
That may change later in the generation, IF, the console maker's can get the more popular F2P games on their console. IF, they can get China to loosen up a little more. Currently all consoles sold there must be manufactured in the Chinese Free Trade zone (a specially designated area). IF, the console maker's can convince them to buy consoles for those F2P games instead of PC. They certainly aren't going to get any of the smartphone gaming revenue.
So, yeah, lots of potential there. But not easy to make a reality.
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Just noticed Christmas Deals on Amazon UK is sponsored by Xbox One! I wonder if that'll help sway Amazon results?
I noticed that during the Playstation Experience even Keynote Shawn Layden called the PS4 the fastest selling console of all time, perhaps Rangers can help with some numbers but I believe the WII is widely regarded as the fastest selling console of all time. I'm curious how many Nintendo moved in its first year for reference.
Wikipedia links to Nintendo's financial reports, and has, if I'm reading it right, Wii at 13 million worldwide after four quarters. So PS4 would beat that at something like 15 million in the same period? However, Wii sales really picked up and its unlikely PS4 will match that, unless maybe there is a major price drop. So 18 months-ish after launch, I expect Wii to be the #1. But then longer term, maybe PS4 can maintain momentum longer and end up selling the most ever in five years? Who knows.
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