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Yeah, was just pointing out that even though Xbox One is losing the next gen battle in hardware sales, it's not all doom and gloom for MS as they are still taking a good chunk of overall game licensing revenue.

Of course part of the deal might be to discount or give up the licensing fee altogether.
 
That four placements is curious. PS4 on top, PS3 on bottom. I guess that shows those PS3 owners likely updated. PS3 is 55% down, so 320,300 last year. 176k less (upgraded to PS4?). XB360 is 43%, so 500k last year (dang, FIFA's popular on 360!). 218k less. PS3 less + XB1 less = 394k. 500k PS4+XB1 buyers, so I guess a lot of upgraders.

Indeed. Perhaps there is a bit of truth to the concept or idea that more PS3 users have updated to a next gen console than X360 owners. This could be due to a better, more attractive price/package, but perhaps also because Sonys 'upgrade plan' seems more inline with what people were expecting. Microsoft may be still fighting image problems after their initial showing (the tv and kinect focus really) and that its loyal userbase is more hesitant and taking a wait and see approach.

This makes the Xbox situation less damning for Microsoft, but the more PS4 sales keep momentum, the more attractive a PS4 becomes to not only PS3 owners, but also X360 users too.

If you look at how marketshare is split; You probably have the

  • loyal consumers (to some degree hardcore gamers) / early adopters / serious gamers
    This group buys and plays games regularly and maintain friends list and their online identity. They probably have quite a lot invested into their platform and brand name of choice
  • occasional gamers
    Gamers alike, but less frequent. Are less attached to their platform
  • people who aren't serious gamers but like buying stuff
    Not really platform invested. They care more about the content than who or what they'll play it on. This group is probably substantial and likely to get anything below a certain price point and whatever is "in" and considered the successful product
  • everyone else

I'd say the first group is less likely to switch to a different platform, even if the platform goes through some fuck-ups. I guess I am in this group as much as various Xbox owners are as well. They are likely to stay with their platform.

Group 2 is pretty much the same but less attached. I think this is where Microsoft may be losing some to the PlayStation brand due to their focus on Kinect and TV, as well as the hardware differences.

Group 3 is not attached at all and buys whatever the sales clerk tells them to or what is considered to be a good buy. The PlayStation 4 has the brandname and the sales momentum, so anyone would immediately recommend that one when confronted with the question "which one to buy?". The Xbox brand just has less key points going for it at the moment which is probably hurting it. If they can keep up well, they might not lose too many of this group, but it's going to be a uphill battle. In the US, the X360 had this group pretty much to them (which is why they outsold the PS3 by such a huge margin), but this generation, it's pointing that the PS4 will have this.
 
Looking good...

Xbox One debuts to long lines in China, beating PS4 to key market

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Microsoft launched the Xbox One in China today — becoming the first foreign company to release a game console in the country in 14 years.

In a post marking the console’s debut, Microsoft called it a “monumental day” for the Xbox team, and it looks like gamers in China feel the same way. Long lines greeted the launch, and upon purchasing the Xbox One, one gamer reportedly yelled, “I finally get to play!”

Could China actually help push XB1 worldwide sales to 10 million units sold by year's end? Thoughts?
 
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Could China actually help push XB1 worldwide sales to 10 million units sold by year's end? Thoughts?

Definitely can't hurt. There's probably a sizeable market in China for this kind of device. It'll be really interesting to see how fast that market heats up, and how it influences game publishers. Movie studios are starting to tailor action movies to try to cater to the Chinese market. I would guess the big budget games would be in the same boat. Censorship in China could have a real influence. It could also be a big barrier to getting enough content to exploit the market.
 
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Like specwar said, why deathindustrial can't just make the wife PS4 as primary console? Since I assume they're living on the same house. It would only be a problem if you want to share with someone in different location, which you need major trust with the person you're sharing your game with.
 
The problem is for someone like me (with kids) my understanding is that if I had 2 PS4s I'd be forever 'juggling' which is the main PS4. And if some kids want to play on PS4a and others on PS4b we are stuffed.

BTW deathindustrial, PS3 had auto-updates, you just needed PS+

Why would you need to be juggling? How many PS4's do you need in your home?
 
Japan's numbers for last week.

Media Create Sales: Week 39, 2014 (Sep 22 - Sep 28)

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |     30.439 |     43.592 |    134.244 |  1.577.925 |  3.107.095 |  16.239.845 |
| PSV # |     16.716 |     11.857 |      6.031 |    914.767 |    710.098 |   3.270.124 |
|  WIU  |      9.950 |      8.396 |      5.909 |    414.807 |    457.348 |   1.940.237 |
|  PS4  |      8.033 |      8.939 |            |    726.079 |            |     726.079 |
|  PS3  |      6.026 |      6.078 |     11.382 |    378.938 |    640.141 |  10.088.612 |
|  XB1  |      1.113 |      1.314 |            |     31.116 |            |      31.116 |
|  360  |        143 |        103 |        511 |      8.436 |     19.546 |   1.647.752 |
| PSP # |        102 |         99 |      4.805 |     97.239 |    373.453 |  20.165.648 |
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|  ALL  |     72.522 |     80.378 |    163.748 |  4.149.307 |  5.368.589 |  54.109.413 |
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| PSVTV |        977 |        709 |            |     62.895 |            |     139.139 |
|  PSV  |     15.739 |     11.148 |      6.031 |    851.872 |    710.098 |   3.130.985 |
| 3DSLL |     22.988 |     35.622 |     93.757 |  1.194.287 |  2.111.579 |   6.620.173 |
|  3DS  |      7.451 |      7.970 |     40.487 |    383.638 |    995.516 |   9.619.672 |
|  PSP  |        102 |         99 |      4.805 |     97.239 |    373.453 |  19.989.661 |
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Famitsu Sales: Week 39, 2014 (Sep 22 - Sep 28)
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |     32.782 |     47.397 |    139.808 |  1.601.738 |  3.136.881 |  16.295.749 |
| PSV # |     17.039 |     12.137 |      6.436 |    910.772 |    696.551 |   3.185.911 |
|  WIU  |      9.197 |      6.689 |      5.560 |    401.975 |    432.963 |   1.920.402 |
|  PS4  |      7.259 |      8.284 |            |    710.547 |            |     710.547 |
|  PS3  |      5.293 |      5.232 |     11.747 |    379.929 |    617.673 |   9.948.429 |
|  XB1  |      1.739 |      1.536 |            |     30.411 |            |      30.411 |
| PSP # |        126 |        168 |      4.042 |     82.836 |    371.267 |  19.691.329 |
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|  ALL  |     73.435 |     81.443 |    168.944 |  4.118.208 |  5.337.916 |  51.782.778 |
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|  PSP  |        126 |        168 |      4.042 |     82.836 |    371.267 |  19.530.754 |
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And 3DS outselling Vita, PS3 and PS4 combined, even crazier.
Nah, that's the only non-crazy thing in there. The fact that 1 in 9 nextgen consoles sold is an Xbox One also feels like a crazy high ratio for Microsoft.
 
Heh, Xbone did not fell below 1k.

It's only week 4 (?). However it did not drop that much from week 3 which was around 1300. If it can stay around 1k steadily going forward it wont seem too horrible an embarrassment. Although the first time it dips into triple figures will seem terrible even though it may be 990 vs 1010, no real difference except in perception.
 
BesTV has managed to move 100,000 units of the Xbox One. This is pretty good news on the part of the Xbox One, seeing as how Time reported that it was quite the expensive console at 3,699 yuan (roughly translating to $600).

Xbox One Sales Gear Up in China And UK As October System Update Improves Hardware

Correct me if I’m wrong… I thought BesTV is acting like a middle man between MS and the Chinese retailers? A partnership on getting XB1 within the correct distribution channels, as well as possible future integration within IPTV setup boxes – correct?

Are there any BesTV retail stores? Or a division within BesTV that operates as a retailer?

I would be careful with possibly confusing distribution movement, with customer sold through.
 
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