All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+

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  1. holsty101

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    I wonder how many XB1 Madden Bundles did move. :???:

    MS, should have gotten August... almost a freebie. I guess The Last of US Remastered kept Sony afloat during August.

    Edit: Patcher's numbers were pretty close... especially being source limited.
     
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  3. Rangers

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    A hardware pie chart is finally out on GAF. Here's some estimates from it


    Pretty bad all around. X1 closed the gap a bit.
     
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    I agree the month was slow...

    If Pachter's XB1 Madden Bundle numbers are correct, XB1 numbers would have really tanked for August without the bundle.
     
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    3rd grade maths hint
    if you get outsold by something, you dont close a gap ;)
    but I agree bad month all around

    you've gotta ask yourself 'ok japan usually leads and they have now gone mobile' but is the west following? really?
     
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    Last month PS4 wins by ~60k IIRC. This month around 30k. Pretty simple concept. Like the difference between the debt and the deficit, depends what you refer too.

    Worth noting as usual X1 and especially PS4 still hold huge leads over PS3/360 to this point in their generation. It's just the ongoing sales that seem a bit weak right now. But perhaps more of the early demand was satiated leading to less now, but still overall greater demand. Holiday sales will be interesting, especially as MS will likely make a big push as Greenberg called non-holiday "preseason" :razz: . Of course without hard actions like a price cut it could mean little. Whatever the case, that's why I say interesting, and also to see if sales rebound for core consoles from a relatively slow 2014 so far.
     
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    Updating my monthly tracking charts

    360
    Nov 2005 326k
    Dec 281k
    Jan 249k
    Feb 161k
    March 192k
    April 295k
    May 221k
    June 277k
    July 206k
    August 205k

    Total after 9 months: 2413k

    X1 (gen over gen)
    Nov 13 909k (+583)
    Dec 13 908k (+627)
    Jan 14 141k (-108)
    Feb 14 258k (+97)
    March 14 311k (+119)
    April 14 115k (-180)
    May 14 76k (-145)
    June 14 197k (-80)
    July 14 131k (-75)
    August 14 160k (-44)

    Total after 9 months: 3206k

    Difference after 9 months: XB1+794k

    Lifetime

    PS4 ~ 3950k
    XB1 ~ 3206k
    WIU ~ 2689k


     
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    The only gap that the XB1 narrowed a bit was the month-over-month gap, but the lifetime gap continues to grow. It was to be expected that the XB1 would be closer this month, thanks to the Madden bundle. I have a feeling that the white Destiny bundle has been slowing down PS4 sales since its announcement, especially in August. My reasoning is: in August, the white Destiny bundle is so close that people are more likely to hold off of buying the regular PS4 SKU. But back in June/July, it's so far from release that people are less likely to wait. If you look at amazon's rankings between June and August, the Destiny bundle ranked highest in August.
     
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    which you obviously havent understood rangers ;)
    the xbone aint closing the gap, is still widening (ok at a lesser rate) but its definitely not closing
    I know you are eagre but wait at least until halo relaunch month and then you can talkj about 'closing the gap' worldwide(*)

    (*)definition worldwide = only the USA
     
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    If we're talking about closing the gap on total sales, then no, X1 isn't closing the gap. The only way to close the gap is for X1 to sell higher than PS4. But if we're talking monthly sales, then yes, X1 closing the gap.
     
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    If 750k is considered a "gap" between PS4/XB1 North America sales... then 5.3 million must be the "Grand Canyon" between the two in worldwide sales.

    I'm pretty sure MS is more concerned with filling the chasms... not just the ditch.
     
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    Now the wait begins for the epic Destiny NPD report.
     
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    He's talking about a different gap to you - the monthly sales lead gap. You're both right.
     
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    'Normalised' number to remove first months anomalous data:

    360
    Feb 161k
    March 192k
    April 295k
    May 221k
    June 277k
    July 206k
    August 205k

    Total post-holiday 6 months: 1557k

    X1 (gen over gen)
    Feb 14 258k (+97)
    March 14 311k (+119)
    April 14 115k (-180)
    May 14 76k (-145)
    June 14 197k (-80)
    July 14 131k (-75)
    August 14 160k (-44)

    Total post-holiday 6 months: 1248k

    Difference for post-holiday 6 months: XB1-309k

    At 80% of 360's numbers, X1 isn't doing as badly in the US as I thought. Looks like it'll be very XBox original - a US (+UK) console without much further adoption worldwide.
     
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    One had a bundle that encouraged sales while the other had a bundle that discouraged sales in August. The gap will be much larger for September.
     
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    A couple of things. One, I'm kind of surprised that the PS4 sold under 200k. That's not encouraging. Hopefully we see a north of 350k month in september and around 2M units for Nov/Dec. I think they'll need an official pricecut in early 2015.

    Two, while X1 was close, I thought this was the month they may outsell PS4 thanks to the madden bundle, as it is now, I don't think they ever will in the US.
     
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    People must have waited for September for the glacier Destiny Bundle.

    Also notice that PS4 sales even improved from July to August, even slightly, from ~187k to ~190k which are in fact very similar to the normalized comparative 360 numbers provided by Shifty:

    X360
    July 206k
    August 205k
     
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    XB1 Destiny (#15) has surpassed Titanfall (#16) on Amazons 2014 Best Sellers list.
     
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    Titanfall had a lot of preorders in 2013.
     
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    Well, the game is litterally given for free with any XB1 purchase currently.

    But the others XB1 multiplats (and pre-orders) are worryingly very far away in the amazon multiplat bestsellers. Current Amazon bestsellers list of only multiplatform entries:

    Destiny XB1 : 5
    Destiny PS4 bundle : 6
    Destiny PS4 : 7

    GTAV - PS4 : 21
    Batman Arkham Knight limited edition - PS4 : 23
    Destiny -Digital code - PS4 : 34
    Fifa 15 Ultimate Team - PS4 : 37
    Destiny limited Edition - PS4 : 38
    Fifa 15 - PS4 : 46

    Destiny limited Edition - XB1 : 50
    Madden NFL 15 - PS4 : 54
    Destiny Digital Guardian edition - PS4 : 59
    Shadow of mordor - PS4 : 62
    Watch_Dogs - PS4 : 63

    Madden NFL 15 - XB1 : 71
    GTAV - XB1 : 72

    NBA 2K15 - PS4 : 74
    COD Ghosts - XB1 : 77 (sale)
    Fifa 15 ultimate edition - XB1 : 83

    AC4 - PS4 : 85
    COD Advanced Warfare - PS4 : 96


    The first XB1 multiplatform game after Destiny is Madden, at #71.
     
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