As I've said before, I don't think the numbers on that site accurately model the playerbase for this game. The new console/old console & PC ratios make no sense. It's like taking an online poll from some random web site and thinking it accurately represents consumer opinion of the whole market.
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As I've said before, I don't think the numbers on that site accurately model the playerbase for this game. The new console/old console & PC ratios make no sense. It's like taking an online poll from some random web site and thinking it accurately represents consumer opinion of the whole market.
How do we know? I would suspect the new next gen consoles could already be extremely powerful influences. And I'm not sure what basis you have for your PC comment. PC being roughly equal to one of the top consoles is about what I'd expect, and is actually a pretty good showing for PC.
Basically I'm guessing your perception of what next gen/PC sales should be could be the one that is skewed, not the website. You must realize the vast vast majority of current gen consoles are not being played, while next gen consoles will see a HUGELY more active userbase, as all the hardcore will flock their, pretty much by early adapter definition.
How fast did X360 software sales eclipse PS2 ones for example? It is much faster than you'd expect, probably within 2 years tops (that would have been 2007) PS2 had seen massive decline.
Anybody with BF4 and the platforms could check if they could roughly verify?
I own 3 of those platforms (360, One, PC) but not BF4 on any.
It seems like the API grabs every single player, if you can input any player name in and get a result as the website seems to indicate...
They do have a sister site, BF3stats, with some player counts (currently shows ~21k PC, ~21k PS3, ~11k 360). I do have the 360 version of that game I think, maybe later I could see if it's possible to verify their player count on 360.
At the very least the player counts seem to be cycling as you'd expect (both in platform share and totals) relative to USA/EU time, which has got to count for a little something.
It's obviously far from statistically rigorous (even if the counts are 100% accurate), but still could be fun to play with and provide the roughest of clues.
Nope, but they did manage to piss of plenty of customers that were out looking desperately for that PS4 before XMAS. They may have kept warm for a short while but it was all done by pissing themselves. People don't forget stuff like this. A long time ago they claimed they wanted to be the cheapest, problem is another chain had a "guaranteed lowest price" as well. So there was a price war that endured for almost a week, on the PS2 (that is how i got my second PS2
. And they lost that one and people still remember even today.djskribbles
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This seller on eBay put up similar Xbox One and PS4 bundles for sale (game, extra controller and $50 eBay gift card). Both bundles are MSRP (not including the gift card). The PS4 bundle sold out (75 available) in 3hrs and the Xbox One has sold 15 in just under a day and are still available.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Brand-New-Pl...s&hash=item4617c4575d&clk_rvr_id=565862114366
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/301046228219?clk_rvr_id=565850784722
Amazon Canada had a PS4 'New Years Edition' that sold out. They now have a 'February Edition' and it's ranked second in the best sellers list, behind the 1-year PS+ subscription that was on sale for 29.99 yesterday.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Brand-New-Pl...s&hash=item4617c4575d&clk_rvr_id=565862114366
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/301046228219?clk_rvr_id=565850784722
Amazon Canada had a PS4 'New Years Edition' that sold out. They now have a 'February Edition' and it's ranked second in the best sellers list, behind the 1-year PS+ subscription that was on sale for 29.99 yesterday.
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BF4 stats update ~7PM central (2 AM Berlin)
PC 52,011
PS4 67,392
PS3 74,680
360 81,232
One 54,123
So...360 has moved into the top spot.
Notable difference though PS4 has stayed ahead of One so far, which I'm not sure was the case last night, indicating PSN problems may have played a role last night?
It's early though as EU drops off and USA keeps ramping One may move ahead.
PC 52,011
PS4 67,392
PS3 74,680
360 81,232
One 54,123
So...360 has moved into the top spot.
Notable difference though PS4 has stayed ahead of One so far, which I'm not sure was the case last night, indicating PSN problems may have played a role last night?
It's early though as EU drops off and USA keeps ramping One may move ahead.
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PSN problems definitely played a factor... the number of X1 players was actually significantly higher than PS4 players yesterday. The number of PS4 players was less than half of what it is right now and this is by far the lowest point for both systems.
I checked the BF4 stats a few hours ago and I saw the PS4 as much as 40% higher than X1 and there were just under 90k people playing on PS4 IIRC. Many of the EU players have probably stopped playing by now (it's later than 1AM in the UK). Still, I don't think the PS4 will fall below the X1.
I checked the BF4 stats a few hours ago and I saw the PS4 as much as 40% higher than X1 and there were just under 90k people playing on PS4 IIRC. Many of the EU players have probably stopped playing by now (it's later than 1AM in the UK). Still, I don't think the PS4 will fall below the X1.
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Its official: MS has a problem in the US and UK too
Xbox One cannot get to the top at Amazon anymore despite in stock. PS4 got there by Amazon promising stock january 4.. http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_11
UK Amazon has had One+Fifa in stock for days but it cant get to top20 vs two out of stock PS4 skus http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_h__12
Xbox One cannot get to the top at Amazon anymore despite in stock. PS4 got there by Amazon promising stock january 4.. http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_11
UK Amazon has had One+Fifa in stock for days but it cant get to top20 vs two out of stock PS4 skus http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_h__12
Seems so. I dont think One surpassed PS4 all day although the ratio got somewhat close. at one point I think it was 58k PS4 vs 52k One I think. Right now (2AM USA) it's 33k PS4 vs 27K One which isn't that huge a spread.
Yeah, I'm tending to agree. MS has mountains of stock, but I think they are selling quite slowly.
Still by the BF4 stats they probably arent too far behind worldwide, maybe ~2/3 as much as PS4. However that is not a true picture as ps4 is highly constrained.
I wonder if MS is getting worried.
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I think price has a bigger effect on long term sales. Good sales for both X1 and PS4 should have been expected at launch, but I think the gap will widen if anything. Launching at 399 was the smartest thing Sony has done.
And it's not like the PS4 won't grow either.
So you are claiming that people will stop shopping at this store because the store sold a product for a price that some people thought was to high?
Nope i am telling you that they are losing customers over this, not claiming.
Early adopters are always less price sensitive than late ones. That said, MS can realize a bigger pricecut to help the situation along with the unique console features you speak of.
So how many customers are they losing?
I think they will have to give in.
I don't think they can really compete with Sony and their faithful fanbase, a more powerful and cheaper hardware.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Xbox One, it is a nice hardware, it gives me confidence to keep it powered on all day long on end without failure and it can provide good experiences in the future. It is essentially the kind of hardware I personally fancy to have a multimedia focused box, an all-in-one device -I am beginning to use it for games, to watch TV documentaries, and videos of my Youtube subscriptions, etc-.
But they should drop the price soon, 'cos it's not just about competing with Sony/Nintendo, but creating a solid user base.
At 500$ I don't see it happening anytime soon. I think they'll give a price cut they'll be at a loss. But I suppose parts become cheaper over time.
Cut the price to 300-250€, make the usual thing in business - loss leaders such as the console or mobile phone, profit returned on calls, subscriptions, Xbox Live, games -digital, retail-, peripherals.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ps4-outsells-xbox-one-2013-12
Do you want an exact count or just an estimate?
When a chain that usually does every promotion by stating they want to be the cheapest decides to raise the price on something as hot and popular as the PS4 at Christmas time it's noted. And they had a busy time on their social platforms trying to explain how it's a service to angry customers that feel they are getting screwed. They will be hearing about this for a long time.
Did I mention they are the only big chain to do this?
People looking for features will need more than what the xb1 offers, if the features aren't working now there is no reason to believe they should work better later.
What surprises me is that the mentioned features are by far strongest in the USA so it should be selling faster there than anywhere in the world.
An exact count would be very nice!
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