All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+
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Titanfall holding up pretty well in UK. Due to bundling, but that still suggests at least healthy hardware sales. Also 360 is a PS2 like beast in UK...must be even stronger 360 market than USA.
I understand X1 has strong discounts in the UK currently. Shame thats no longer the case in U.S.
I understand X1 has strong discounts in the UK currently. Shame thats no longer the case in U.S.
Its not like its set in stone. Imagine how great N64 would have been if it used CDs instead of expensive cartridges which killed 3rd party support among other things including restrictive 3rd party clauses, it would have gotten FF7 which was originally designed for N64.
Nintendo needs a slap back into reality, it has to react and adjust to the competitive environment, hopefully Wiiu slaps some sense into them.
But hey even mircrosoft got caught up in the whole innovation thing with the bundling of the Kinect which may or may not bring real innovation to games.
Nintendo needs a slap back into reality, it has to react and adjust to the competitive environment, hopefully Wiiu slaps some sense into them.
But hey even mircrosoft got caught up in the whole innovation thing with the bundling of the Kinect which may or may not bring real innovation to games.
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Talking about anecdotal sales, PS4 was still sold put yesterday, but I did see a bunch of Xbox Ones, that apparently were imported or something like that. Also, my manager is currently payig for his sons 360 live subscription, amd cited it as an important reason to not very soon get something new like it. He also told me his son is currently set on getting a slim PS3 to catch up with the games he's missed so far.
Other young folk I talked to (through music school where I have guitar lessons) are interested in Xbox One but are spending their money on ridiculously expensive smartphones instead.
Other young folk I talked to (through music school where I have guitar lessons) are interested in Xbox One but are spending their money on ridiculously expensive smartphones instead.
Speaking of similar anecdotal, I just came back from a trip to Montreal doing the friends and family world tour and was surprised that no one back home had a next gen console, not one friend or family member. Some are just keeping their old console as it's good enough, some switched to pc for gaming, but the lions share of them have switched to tablets and phones for their gaming. I thought I was going to be the only one passing on this gen but that turned out to not be the case at all. It is interesting how people seem totally ok spending piles of money yearly on phones and tablets.
At this point their console sales are low enough there's probably little reason to justify the expense of an e3.
Weirdly, I've been watching the Amazon charts and somehow the X1 TF bundle has actually been rising lately (#20 currently). Despite the return to $499.
I was expecting the X1 to fall way down once it back to 499. Maybe to 50's-60's.
Another interesting thing I noticed is Target no longer carries the TF bundle at all. I'm guessing it's the beginning of it eventually selling out. Heck it just occurred to me maybe that's why it's rising on amazon, if it's increasingly unavailable elsewhere.
A check of Best Buy stock indicates TF bundle still available online and a all local B&M. But Gamestop OTOH, it's unavailable online and wont let me search for store availability (just kicks me back to homepage when I try). WM has it both online and in all local stores (although WM's inventory checker sucks I think, so not sure I believe this).
Also I found another "best sellers" thing to look at, Gamestop has one on the front page
Not really much can be gleaned, or how often it's updated etc. I assume it's left to right order and pretty up to date if we assume Spidey 2 is #1. But I do see there's no TF bundle there, just the Forza bundle green X1, correlating with expectation. Much like the Best Buy bestsellers, it's quite limited, but I like to look at something besides Amazon all the time as I dont think they always give a true picture.
Edit: they do have a more detailed software only ranking here http://www.gamestop.com/browse/games?nav=13ffff2418. Imagine it's been around I just wasn't aware of it. It doesn't entirely match with the front page graphic.
The front page (the one the image is of) list can make sense if we combine Spidey SKUS, and assume there's price weighting going on (thus pushing the $129 Tales Of Xillia CE up the list)
Anyways this is what you get when you go to games/all on GS and sort by "bestselling" (top 10)
#1 MLB 14 PS4
#2 Destiny PS4
#3 Amazing Spiderman 2 X360
#4 Destiny X1
#5 Amazing Spiderman 2 PS4
#6 Watch Dogs PS4
#7 Amazing Spiderman 2 PS3
#8 MLB 2k13 X360 (huh?? Some kind of recent sale maybe?)
#9 Lego the Hobbit X360
#10 Gears of War 2 X360 (appears to be on sale for 99c used?)
I was expecting the X1 to fall way down once it back to 499. Maybe to 50's-60's.
Another interesting thing I noticed is Target no longer carries the TF bundle at all. I'm guessing it's the beginning of it eventually selling out. Heck it just occurred to me maybe that's why it's rising on amazon, if it's increasingly unavailable elsewhere.
A check of Best Buy stock indicates TF bundle still available online and a all local B&M. But Gamestop OTOH, it's unavailable online and wont let me search for store availability (just kicks me back to homepage when I try). WM has it both online and in all local stores (although WM's inventory checker sucks I think, so not sure I believe this).
Also I found another "best sellers" thing to look at, Gamestop has one on the front page
Not really much can be gleaned, or how often it's updated etc. I assume it's left to right order and pretty up to date if we assume Spidey 2 is #1. But I do see there's no TF bundle there, just the Forza bundle green X1, correlating with expectation. Much like the Best Buy bestsellers, it's quite limited, but I like to look at something besides Amazon all the time as I dont think they always give a true picture.
Edit: they do have a more detailed software only ranking here http://www.gamestop.com/browse/games?nav=13ffff2418. Imagine it's been around I just wasn't aware of it. It doesn't entirely match with the front page graphic.
The front page (the one the image is of) list can make sense if we combine Spidey SKUS, and assume there's price weighting going on (thus pushing the $129 Tales Of Xillia CE up the list)
Anyways this is what you get when you go to games/all on GS and sort by "bestselling" (top 10)
#1 MLB 14 PS4
#2 Destiny PS4
#3 Amazing Spiderman 2 X360
#4 Destiny X1
#5 Amazing Spiderman 2 PS4
#6 Watch Dogs PS4
#7 Amazing Spiderman 2 PS3
#8 MLB 2k13 X360 (huh?? Some kind of recent sale maybe?)
#9 Lego the Hobbit X360
#10 Gears of War 2 X360 (appears to be on sale for 99c used?)
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It's not really climbing. AFAIK it's been hanging around 20-25 since the 449 promo ended (currently 21st). It was 9-13 when it was 449. In March it was ranked 11th, and it's ranked 25th in April so far.
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Well I dont remember exactly, but it went out of the top 20 to 20-30, I just assumed it was going way down, then I saw it had the green up arrow and was back to 20 when I checked. Surprised me.
For what it's worth (not all that much), MS reported 1.4m X1 games sold in March NPD. From JVM's Uk figures, we can try to compare market size. 835k in the "1st quarter", but I guess we need to adjust that March NPD was 5 week. Doing all that we come out (assuming sales were evenly spread throughout the UK months) we come up with an estimate of 321k X1 games sold in Uk in March.
So by that, admittedly very flawed, theory, the USA market is "only" 4.36X as large as UK for x1 software for March, admitting the dates probably dont even align and so forth and so on..
If anything it's more than I expected. Previously I had done something like "markets similarly large game consumers, UK~60m, USA~300m, therefore USA~5X UK". Granted there's so much variability there as to render it fairly useless, but I guess the takeaway to me is UK may be slightly larger compared to US than I expected.
Realistically I'd still probably spitball with the 5X figure. Just too many variables to say anything more specific. Maybe sometimes I'd assume 4.5X instead. But I guess it does help to validate the range.
For what it's worth (not all that much), MS reported 1.4m X1 games sold in March NPD. From JVM's Uk figures, we can try to compare market size. 835k in the "1st quarter", but I guess we need to adjust that March NPD was 5 week. Doing all that we come out (assuming sales were evenly spread throughout the UK months) we come up with an estimate of 321k X1 games sold in Uk in March.
So by that, admittedly very flawed, theory, the USA market is "only" 4.36X as large as UK for x1 software for March, admitting the dates probably dont even align and so forth and so on..
If anything it's more than I expected. Previously I had done something like "markets similarly large game consumers, UK~60m, USA~300m, therefore USA~5X UK". Granted there's so much variability there as to render it fairly useless, but I guess the takeaway to me is UK may be slightly larger compared to US than I expected.
Realistically I'd still probably spitball with the 5X figure. Just too many variables to say anything more specific. Maybe sometimes I'd assume 4.5X instead. But I guess it does help to validate the range.
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Am I being blind to the Xbox One or is it not in the list of 100? If this is true of most shops I fully expect Microsoft to hit E3 hard.
Titanfall bundle is the main by far XOne console people would be buying to be fair. Basically the default. We even got NPD specs to that effect.
Only once it sells out they'll have to revert to the less desirable (for most I assume) Forza bundle. There is no standalone X1 currently I think (except the Day One edition temporarily back in stock on Amazon). Although since it has no special colored box the Forza "bundle" is closer to the default SKU, in principle if not sales.
More "interesting" imo was X1 only had one software title in the top 100 that I saw, versus several for PS4. Granted that one (TF) was the highest ranking next gen software. Even in March X1 had multiple software in the top 100.
I still dont think Amazon tells much though. We know X1 sold more software than PS4 in March in NPD for example, but it's certainly not reflected in Amazon charts (granted I suppose the single title Titanfall has a huge effect on that, as it sold 865k of the total 1.4 million x1 games sold in March)
Only once it sells out they'll have to revert to the less desirable (for most I assume) Forza bundle. There is no standalone X1 currently I think (except the Day One edition temporarily back in stock on Amazon). Although since it has no special colored box the Forza "bundle" is closer to the default SKU, in principle if not sales.
More "interesting" imo was X1 only had one software title in the top 100 that I saw, versus several for PS4. Granted that one (TF) was the highest ranking next gen software. Even in March X1 had multiple software in the top 100.
I still dont think Amazon tells much though. We know X1 sold more software than PS4 in March in NPD for example, but it's certainly not reflected in Amazon charts (granted I suppose the single title Titanfall has a huge effect on that, as it sold 865k of the total 1.4 million x1 games sold in March)
So, after looking that Amazon April top-100 ranking list... situation is not good for Xbone software. Only Titanfall was ranked and nothing else.
Hardware:
#5 - PS4 basic package
#25 - Xbox One Titanfall Bundle
Software:
#4 - Titanfall [X360]
#8 - Titanfall [Xbone]
#23 - Fifa 14 [PS4]
#24 - MLB 14 [PS4]
#27 - Infamous Second Son [PS4]
#34 - Watch Dogs [PS4]
#35 - TLOU Remastered [PS4]
#51 - BF4 [PS4]
#60 - COD Ghosts [PS4]
#67 - Destiny [PS4]
#74 - FF14 [PS4]
Upcoming games ranking [overall preorders]:
Watch Dogs PS4 #14
Watch Dogs Xbone #49
Wolfenstein PS4 #86
Wolfenstein Xbone #152
Destiny PS4 #16
Destiny Xbone #28
Hardware:
#5 - PS4 basic package
#25 - Xbox One Titanfall Bundle
Software:
#4 - Titanfall [X360]
#8 - Titanfall [Xbone]
#23 - Fifa 14 [PS4]
#24 - MLB 14 [PS4]
#27 - Infamous Second Son [PS4]
#34 - Watch Dogs [PS4]
#35 - TLOU Remastered [PS4]
#51 - BF4 [PS4]
#60 - COD Ghosts [PS4]
#67 - Destiny [PS4]
#74 - FF14 [PS4]
Upcoming games ranking [overall preorders]:
Watch Dogs PS4 #14
Watch Dogs Xbone #49
Wolfenstein PS4 #86
Wolfenstein Xbone #152
Destiny PS4 #16
Destiny Xbone #28
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