About ps3 bc

schmuck · Jun 1, 2006

Isnt supposed to run the thru emulation? Anyone heard anymore info..

Because It would kill if my old psx games would look as good as they do on epsx!
chrono cross:

xeno gears:
http://forums.ngemu.com/attachments...ate_29_11_2003_time_00_36_39.jpg?d=1070130351
http://forums.ngemu.com/attachments...ate_25_11_2003_time_23_01_24.jpg?d=1070129756

Carl B · Jun 1, 2006

Ok you're going to want to reduce those screenshots, because they're too big.

We don't have anything further as yet as to the definitive means via which B/C is being acheived, just that however that is, the results will be upscaled.

Rodéric · Jun 1, 2006

xbdestroya said:
Ok you're going to want to reduce those screenshots, because they're too big.

We don't have anything further as yet as to the definitive means via which B/C is being acheived, just that however that is, the results will be upscaled.

Too late....

Shifty Geezer · Jun 1, 2006

I would SO love it if PS1 and PS2 games looked that good! It'd be great to play Driver again (though without rumble, I'd need to keep an eye out on the radar!)

Blazkowicz · Jun 1, 2006

I expect a system-on-chip PS2, just like there was a PS1 in the PS2 ^.
so, no emulation but inclusion of the previous hardware.

Carl B · Jun 1, 2006

Blazkowicz_ said:
I expect a system-on-chip PS2, just like there was a PS1 in the PS2 ^.
so, no emulation but inclusion of the previous hardware.

This conversations been had several times actually. Mind you, the present slimline PS2's already have the EE and GS on a single chip; but it would still be an expensive route to take in the short term.

There's talk of transistor considerations on the RSX possibly, and EE emulation via Cell. I'm sure the discussion will play out here again soon enough.

schmuck · Jun 1, 2006

Sorry for the img. size.

"I would SO love it if PS1 and PS2 games looked that good!"

Im usually against filters etc with emulation..but when u use it on psone games its like they where from another generation, especially the late ones like dino crisis, mgs, chrono cross etc...

archie4oz · Jun 1, 2006

This conversations been had several times actually. Mind you, the present slimline PS2's already have the EE and GS on a single chip; but it would still be an expensive route to take in the short term.

There's talk of transistor considerations on the RSX possibly, and EE emulation via Cell. I'm sure the discussion will play out here again soon enough.

What makes you think it has to be one or the other?

_phil_ · Jun 1, 2006

it'll be software only BC.

Carl B · Jun 1, 2006

archie4oz said:
What makes you think it has to be one or the other?

Well, I didn't say it did.

BUT, at the same time I don't expect it to be both a full EE+GS and a robust emulator backend, y'know? The 'middle road' approach I feel is the one espoused by the hardware considerations on the RSX.

Nesh · Jun 1, 2006

Indeed they look so different. I ll b e happy as well if the same imprvement is done on the PS3. There are also many PS2 games that are suffeeing from some aliasing and that doesnt do games' justice. Killzone for example is visually a work of art on the PS2 but the aliasing is ruining the real quality

Bad_Boy · Jun 1, 2006

Am I the only one not thinking about old games for backwards compatibility? God of War 2 comes out in 07 guys! Will probably be the last ps2 game I buy. Upscaled on PS3 would be very nice.

I'm not knocking you guys though, I would love for my PS1 games to look that good also. Xenogears anyone?

TheChefO · Jun 1, 2006

Bad_Boy said:
Upscaled on PS3 would be very nice.

Anyone else have a 720 native display that was horribly disapointed at "upscaled" xbox games on 360?

I'm curious how they can emulate the (to this day insane) bandwidth of ps2?

drpepper · Jun 1, 2006

Silent Hill people! I would love to see those results with that title.

Carl B · Jun 1, 2006

TheChefO said:
I'm curious how they can emulate the (to this day insane) bandwidth of ps2?

Well, that's the question on everybody's mind, and the key point of all former debates on the subject.

Shifty Geezer · Jun 1, 2006

TheChefO said:
I'm curious how they can emulate the (to this day insane) bandwidth of ps2?

It's worth checking the prevous threads on this where it was discuessed extensively, but it looks like workarounds are definitely possible without the need for extra eDRAM like hardware. eg. There's no texture compression on PS2, so that alone is giving PS3 4x the relative texture BW, 80+ GB/s.

schmuck · Jun 1, 2006

"Silent Hill people! I would love to see those results with that title."

Nesh · Jun 1, 2006

drpepper said:
Silent Hill people! I would love to see those results with that title.

Oh yes

Corwin_B · Jun 1, 2006

Didn't Kutaragi mention using "a mix of software and hardware" for PS3 BC ?

rounin · Jun 1, 2006

I wouldn't be surprised if BC for PSX games were going to look that good. I'm not sure about PS2 titles though.

About ps3 bc

schmuck

Carl B

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Rodéric

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Shifty Geezer

uber-Troll!

Blazkowicz

Carl B

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schmuck

archie4oz

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_phil_

Carl B

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Nesh

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Bad_Boy

god of war.

TheChefO

drpepper

Carl B

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Shifty Geezer

uber-Troll!

schmuck

Nesh

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Corwin_B

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