[360, PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

[Phil]

You can get the harrier or the helicopter with a kill streak of 4 kills if you're lucky, as the drop-off package includes these as well. There's also a perk that lets it you get the goodies with one kill less too.

Staying under cover is a given when helicopter or harriers are up - if you're up against a good party or clan though, they will have the radar going at the same time or hunt you down regardless. Even in the city where there's lots of shelter, it's difficult to defend against attacks from above, especially when the others are coming after you (each indoor location can be usually accessed by at least two paths). Not only that but I've spawned numerous times out in the open when there was a helicopter up above.

The predator missile is deadly though. It's far to quick to defend/run for cover.


BTW Ostepop (or anyone): How can you get the nuke kill streak? We tried this is a private FFA match and despite 25 kills in a row, we didn't get it. Is it only on big maps or does it have to be unlocked first?

 

[Scott_Arm]

Has to be unlocked first. I still haven't seen it.

 

[Cheezdoodles]

That's not the same thing as being beaten by a level 40+ guy that has all the weapons with all the fancy upgrades to his disposal, sniping off people at random at long distances and then getting an even more significant advantage by dropping missiles on us or sending helicopters and harriers after us.

If you cannot handle the lvl 40 guy, your just to bad.
Its all about aim. The weapons give slight advantages, but ultimately, if you cannot take down the guy, 99% of the time its because you are a worse player.

I have never ever, been in a situation where i cannot handle a high level because they have better weapons.

Sure they may have slight advantages, but you can counter whatever they are using, even at level 10. Cold blood if they use termal\heartbeat, jammer perks, etc. Its simply doesn't happend. Either i cannot handle him because he is better than me, or i can play him. Of course, if he was exactly as good as me, he win on the basis of having better weapons, but statistically that is unlikely (to be exactly as good). The gain in "kills" from better weapons is low as hell.

What's more of a factor is my inexperience of the maps (they are very complex after all, especially the city/town ones - which are the most frequent maps that get chosen in my games with 12-16 players). Again, here a player with more playtime (higher level) will have more experience having played more on these maps.

Well, then your pretty much down to that the only factor is map experience. Yes, map experience is important, but aim is king:

I have about zero map experience in CoD6, i still got a decent average KDR (my KDR is 1.9 or so (ive only played stoned so far). but this will increase significantly after my exam periods and given some time to play an learn maps).

i still manage to kill 50% of all my teams kills or more playing in rooms with lvl 40-60's, and that the first-second time i play the maps. Ive only played, afgan,scrapeyard, rift, brazil level, urban level and airport level. Most of them not more than 1-2 times.

My accuracy is not the problem.

Accuracy is not a measure of how good your aim is.

Tons of people have waaay better accuracy than me, but i rape them completely. Most elite players only have slightly better accuracy than me (20-25%), unless they are snipers.

Its all about how fast you can move, how fast you can shoot while moving and how fast you can aim. You hitting 50% of your shots means squat, if ive already sent 10 shots in your direction.

MY KDR is 1.9 right now. I dont know any of the maps at all. Ive played the game for like 5-6 hours total. See my point? Your KDR is 1.0 or whatever. Youve played the game more than me. Your map experience is not worth alot compared to just being able to aim.

Practice aiming then you will stop whining about levels and experience and what not.

Ofcourse people who play more than you will now the maps better and this gives some advantage. But most of these people suck completely at aiming so you can make up for lack of playtime by simply LEARNING HOW TO AIM.

And by learning how to aim i mean this:

USe VERY HIGH sensitivity (as high as possible for you). Learn to aim at max. (your supposed to never ever stand still when shooting unless you know your safe and shot at somebody from a distance).

Once you master this. You will never ever complain about levels and whatnot.

 

[Alkohallick]

Has to be unlocked first. I still haven't seen it.

if you play on PSN add me Alkohallick, we have 2 guys on our squad who call em in at least once every 10-15 games. and for the record i personally have never called on in, the 1 time i did have 24 kills i didnt have that killstreak reward checked

 

[infinity4]

i haven't got the game actually.

How does special ops work? Is it if you finish on veteran you get three 3 stars, hardened 2 and reg 1?

Prob I will get SP done then move onto MP.

 

[Acert93]

i haven't got the game actually.

How does special ops work? Is it if you finish on veteran you get three 3 stars, hardened 2 and reg 1?

Prob I will get SP done then move onto MP.

Most of the Spec Ops (Coop) have 3 levels of Difficulty. You get 3 Stars for Hardened, 2 Stars for Vetran, and 1 Star for Regular. A few Missions are time based so Stars are rewarded for speed.

So far, surprisingly, Spec Ops is my favorite mode. I hope in the future we see some Spec Ops/Counter Spec Ops 2v2--that would totally rock!

 

[Rotmm]

So, I've just finished the SP campaign and I'm really not sure what I think of it.

 

[Tap In]

gonna grab this after Assassin's Creed is done

 

[eastmen]

The only thing with this game that annoys me is when you see something diffrent on the kill cam then what oyu did in the game.

 

[Cheezdoodles]

The only thing with this game that annoys me is when you see something diffrent on the kill cam then what oyu did in the game.

Thats P2P netcode for you. Everybody views the world a little differently.

Sucks ass that not more of these console games have dedicated servers, or atleast serverside netcode.

 

[Phil]

(...lots of stuff...)

Ostepop,

I appreciate the advice on aiming and will for sure practice this on a higher sensitivity setting, although it is not my main concern at the moment, since it's not the prime reason why I am getting killed. I named the factors in my last few posts and described some examples of what the issue is:

- lack of experience on the maps
- powerful kill streaks used by more experienced players leading to an unbalanced gameplay
- certain upgrades of weapons used by more experienced players that I can't defend against (yet)
- lack of aiming skills compared to more experienced players

These issues I have could be solved with better match making. If level 20 players battle against 20 players, they, for the most part, have a similar amount of play (practice) time with the game, same weapons at their disposal (unlocked by level), potentially similar upgrades etc.

I am fully aware that not all level 40-60 players are as skilled as their level suggests - but the matter of the fact is, that more playtime gives you more experience and practice that leads to an advantage over beginners one way or the other.

Knowing how to nullfy certain upgrades by using perks I haven't unlocked yet doesn't really help either. Decent match making has been in just about any decent FPS since RFOM and would make life a whole lot easier for beginners.

Fairplay to you if you don't have the same issues.

 

[Cheezdoodles]

Fairplay to you if you don't have the same issues.

In my eyes, all your issues seem just to be bound by lack of (aiming)skill

Since i have zero map experience, low level, i have no super powerful weapon upgrades, but my average kdr is 1.9.

Thus based on the fact that everything else between us except for aiming should be equal (similar lack of experience etc) i dont understand how the issues can be bound from anything else.

You can use all the killstreak options that any other player can use, even if he is lvl 70. At lvl 10 you can unlock your whichever killstreak bonus you want... Be it Nuke or harrier yet, or whatever.

However. I do know another possible explanation as to why you have a hard time:
Your playing with 1-2 friends. This means often your gonna get matched in rooms where there is a full clan on one side. Obviously, your gonna get raped by them if they are half decent at what they are doing, as random teams sucks ass.

Knowing how to nullfy certain upgrades by using perks I haven't unlocked yet doesn't really help either.

What lvl are you? Jammer perk is available from like lvl 17 and Cold blooded is 25. Thats all you need. Jammer perk = invisible to UAV. Coldblooded = invisible to thermal, turrents etc

It takes like 3-4 hours to get lvl 25 if your half decent

 

[Mize]

I've never come close to my skill in fps games with kb+mouse on any console. It's just not quite intuitive to me. I was a killstreak king in pc games and pure cannon fodder on console MP.

 

[Acert93]

For those wanting to add themselves to the B3D roll call for online play with fellow posters the link is here:

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=55647

 

[Acert93]

For those complaining about the SP length:

Spec Ops mode can be played SP (in most missions) and not only is it really good, it easily doubles the length of the campaign. Campaign is 4-6 hour for good players, depending on the difficulty level (not counting looking for intel and such or replaying scenes). I already have that much time into Coop and have Gamma, Delta, and Charlie missions to try and a couple 3 Stars remaining on Beta. Getting all 3 Stars by yourself isn't easy and is a lot of fun--the missions tend to be pretty tense.

The Campaign may only be 4-6 hours, but the Single Player component is a lot longer than that.

 

[Scott_Arm]

What lvl are you? Jammer perk is available from like lvl 17 and Cold blooded is 25. Thats all you need. Jammer perk = invisible to UAV. Coldblooded = invisible to thermal, turrents etc

It takes like 3-4 hours to get lvl 25 if your half decent

I am not half decent!

Those perks are pretty good though. Ninja is another that is pretty good. I'll probably switch to cold blooded and ninja when I have them both and I've unlocked the pro version of the other perks I like.

Edit: And I'll use a silencer.

 

[Billy Idol]

For those complaining about the SP length:

Spec Ops mode can be played SP (in most missions) and not only is it really good, it easily doubles the length of the campaign. Campaign is 4-6 hour for good players, depending on the difficulty level (not counting looking for intel and such or replaying scenes). I already have that much time into Coop and have Gamma, Delta, and Charlie missions to try and a couple 3 Stars remaining on Beta. Getting all 3 Stars by yourself isn't easy and is a lot of fun--the missions tend to be pretty tense.

The Campaign may only be 4-6 hours, but the Single Player component is a lot longer than that.

thanks for the hint!!

 

[betan]

I so wish the game had dedicated servers and/or decent net code so we could have played with our arrogant posters from the other side of the world in fair matches.

 

[Acert93]

Maybe because my connection is pretty good (16Mbit downstream, 10Mbit upstream) I haven't had many issues in my short time online. Now I cannot say the same for lobby matchmaking ...

 

[betan]

I have 20Mbit and issues are apparent to the experienced eye especially when we are playing with European friends.If nothing, just look at the kill cams. (the matchmaking looks for close games so they are not very apparent when playing with my NA friends during sane hours unless it is Ground War)

Plus, the terribleness of the netcode should be obvious to the blind eye when playing with really poor host. It's not even jumpy or anything, you cannot move at all, it keeps rewinding you back. I'm guessing they use Doom 2 code modified for p2p or something.