Or you can just play it on PC where you can have both.
Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2024]
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Right. I'm speaking for the console players.
experienced this today on Indiana Jones and the Great Circle. The first time in the fountain puzzle in the Vatican. Behind the statues and the door there is very little light when you first rotate the structure.
There is some light coming from the sides of the entrance, but when you get just behind the wall and the statues, the area gets totally dark in a millisecond instead of gradually darkening, and then again when you come out of that dark place the area gets lit so fast, it looks strange..
I also experienced something similar in one of the tents in Gizeh (Egypt).
In raster yes, a little more but generally the same ballpark. It RT and ML (which is responsible for superior image quality in most titles) it is comfortably slower. But the 2080 is more than 6 years old now. It's modern equivalent is the 4060 which is also over 18 months old. And very soon even the 5060 should be faster than that.
I wouldn’t say that. The Series X and PS5 are basically tied and the 2070S is generally within 5% of them. The 2080, VRAM notwithstanding, usually edges them out ever so slightly.
davis.anthony
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How about looking at real world performance at matched settings instead.
Which looking at the few videos DF do implies the 2080 is superior to PS5 and XSX at matched raster settings and faster with RT enabled.
Consoles don't show all they can in first years. Same was with 360 and One. And as we can see now 2080 became history, and XSX just started to show what it can. And results will be better in comming 2 years when Gears E-Day, Fable, Perfect Dark and other games will be released.
davis.anthony
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360 was outclassed within one year and One was dead from a performance point of view before it even released.
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You have no argument, within 360's first year on sale the 8800GTX released, and when running matched settings the 8800GTX offered better frame rates in every game for the duration of 360's life.
And if we look at multi-GPU solutions 360 was outclassed from launch.
And Xbox One was such a joke at launch in terms of GPU performance I wouldn't even use that to try and prove any kind of point.
Gen on gen GPU performance increases on PC were crazy during 360's life.
To put it in to context for you, between PS3 and PS4 releasing Nvidia increased its Tflops by a factor of 17x.
If we apply that same scaling to today's hardware we would be finishing this current console generation with PC GPU's rated at 504Tflops, the 4090 has 82.5Tflops which shows how much hardware has slowed down and how far off the pace we are.
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It’s been 4 years. How long do we need to wait?
What do you mean opinion? The data is out there. The RTX 2070S, Series X, and PS5 GPUs are all generally roughly similar in performance. The 2080 is usually a bit faster than them but not by much and the consoles can win here and there.
What do you mean "unless"? The 2080 is also better at RT than them. They can only win when it runs out of VRAM.Unless the game does RT, then the 2080 wins every time
The argument is weird.
I mean it has bpretty much been established that the consle APU's are around 2070 performance, less in RT.
His argument is weird and seems disconnected from reality.
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I don't think you guys want a locked thread again... and maybe even longer than before.
Let's make a new thread about PC evolution with relation to consoles if that's what we want to argue about.
Let's make a new thread about PC evolution with relation to consoles if that's what we want to argue about.
Looping back to this.
Surely, the Pro should have absolutely no issue maintaining 60fps at 1080p in this game? A 3070 averages 71fps with lows in the mid 50s. With proper DRS and tweaks, frame gen should not be needed on the Pro.
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