davis.anthony
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I've never seen a TV advert for Steam Deck, have you?
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I've never seen a TV advert for Steam Deck, have you?
Cappuccino
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Are we really saying cable TV ads are the reason adult-focused portables aren’t gaining mass appeal?
davis.anthony
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Are you really saying that a product with no mainline advertising should just sell?
Cappuccino
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Every time I open Steam I see an ad for Steam deck.
Plus, it’s not like there are a lot of Xbox hardware ads either.
davis.anthony
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There are a lot of adverts on TV, and not everyone has steam.
Imagine if Sony only advertised PS5 Pro on PSN.
Cappuccino
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I just find it hard to believe cable TV ads are what sells consoles in 2024 lol
davis.anthony
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I'm finding it hard believe that you don't understand how marketing works.
Cappuccino
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I’ve never met anyone under the age of 50 that watches cable TV anymore. If you think that’s how modern game consoles are marketed I’m not sure what else to say lol.
I haven’t seen an ad for an Nvidia GPU either, I wonder how those sell…
davis.anthony
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You must not know many people under 50 then.
Where did I say that's how they're marketed?
It appears the point has gone over your head.
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Tkumpathenurple
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So we've gone from the topic, to portables, to the necessity of broadcast TV adverts?
It's not that cable TV is the main channel for ads. It's just that PS ads are everywhere, and showing on a place like TV ads kind of demonstrate that.
You see ads of PS on websites, social media, YouTube, on the streets (on big metropolitan cities), on Champions League, on cable TV. Various places. In various countries.
Nintendo pretty much does this too.
Xbox too, but not so much outside US.
You see an ad of Steam Deck on... Steam.
Simple as that.
You see ads of PS on websites, social media, YouTube, on the streets (on big metropolitan cities), on Champions League, on cable TV. Various places. In various countries.
Nintendo pretty much does this too.
Xbox too, but not so much outside US.
You see an ad of Steam Deck on... Steam.
Simple as that.
davis.anthony
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And thankfully spelled it out instead of the back-and-forth of "you don't get it" that disagreements often fall into.
Can someone spec a pc lite console for 1k to 1.5k sold by oem for a 2025 release? Something forward compatible aka I can put my cyberpunk copy in it or from an ecosystem steam/xbox and get path tracing?
Note before you folks laugh me out this room; I see this industry as ecosystem wars before cloud becomes the standard. The winners are those that can create/control content.
Note before you folks laugh me out this room; I see this industry as ecosystem wars before cloud becomes the standard. The winners are those that can create/control content.
itsmydamnation
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I feel that people who think everything will become cloud don't understand the economics of datacentres.
Probably the same people who think LLM's will take everyone's jobs.
People seem to think these pushes to these centralised models are cost effect , they aren't. The problem is the average finance and facilities departments in an average org are run so badly they cant manage the capital expenditure and ebb's and flows. Its just easier to turn it into an opex costs. But i have lost count of the number of places that get opex sticker shock after a cloud move but then quickly transition into "this is just my life now". None of these issues/constraints exist in the consumer space, so long as Sony can keep taking their 60-100 USD per person in subscription revenue that's in all likelihood going to be the most cost on revenue effective.
davis.anthony
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With the next generation of PC GPU's months away I wouldn't even bother speccing one now, I would wait.
Rumours that AMD is going to start making APUs with their 3D v-cache. That could be very interesting for a next-gen console. I could see a console using the 3d v-cache and then cheaping out on the memory a little bit.
wccftech.com
AMD Rumored To Equip 3D V-Cache On Next-Gen Ryzen APUs & Threadripper CPUs
AMD's next-generation Ryzen APUs & Threadripper CPUs are rumored to come equipped with the latest 3D V-Cache innovations.
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With a minimum target of 32GB of RAM would be interesting to see how this is pulled off.
I haven't seen super detailed memory scaling for 9800x3d yet, but it seems like diminishing returns start to hit around ddr5 6000. With the 3D v-cache parts you generally seem to be less constrained by memory latency and bandwidth, depending on the game. I could see a console using 3D v-cache and then going with memory that's a little more conservative(cheaper) in terms of timings, bandwidth.
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