XBox 360 launched in Japan

[overclocked]

Looking at the numbers we do have we can make a solid assumption that there are about 10m PSPs sold at this time.

USA/Europe are nearly equal on PSP/DS sales by all accounts (slight lead for DS maybe?), Japan has around 2.5m unit advantage though. So we have ~13m - ~3m = ~10m.

It isn't so hard to believe. Trust the fudgy math!

Take a look at some of the games coming down the pipe in 06 for PSP -- lots of gems on the way. I'm much more excited for it's 06 lineup than DS'... Not that DS' current lineup isn't fantastic (fantastic enough that I'm going to get myself one in the next couple weeks -- hurray).

I'll make a rather "silly" prediction and say by 2008 PSP will have a larger install base than DS (assuming DS is still the current high end Nintendo handheld). I think PSP has a lot of room to grow, especially after a few price drops (which NDS can't really do after 99... 79?) -- then throw in more software titles, more other feature updates, 222->333mhz jump, downloadable games/movies, psp/psp3 interaction (who knows how that'll end up?), and who knows what else. Not that the DS won't have room to grow (I'm interested if there will be some Rev->nds interaction -- that'd be sweet), but it can't cut its price much, and it doesn't have the headroom to grow like PSP does. If psp sales are this good at 249, they should be rather fantastic once it hits 149 or 199 even.

PSP is doing great for the price its at. In Europe its only came out in september also. When they get the new battery(i would assume that they diss the former battery so that it will be in the value pack). Better games for 06 cause its been lacking and maybe a GT4 pack also to sell at same price as GigaPack. guess they will go 199 06/christmas 149 07/christmas depending alot when they have shrinked all logic too 65nm/45nm.

 

[dantruon]

dont change the subject you guys, the xbox360 is a total failure in Japan and everyone here who denied it is a total ****** of MS or they have too much hatred for Sony for unknown accumulative reasons.

 

[Sis]

dont change the subject you guys, the xbox360 is a total failure in Japan and everyone here who denied it is a total ****** of MS or they have too much hatred for Sony for unknown accumulative reasons.

Uhhh, ok.

I disagree with the notion that you can state one way or the other if something is a success or failure only 3 weeks after it has launched. If I recall, the original Playstation was not a massive, immediate success. I'm not arguing that the Xbox 360 is on that tragectory :smile: , but I do think it is historically accurate to say that a launch does not indicate success or failure.

For example, the Xbox 360 has been very successful in NA and UK. I would not at all stand up and say, "The Xbox 360 is a success." It may still fail.

If you want to say, "The Japanese Xbox 360 launch is a total failure" then I would agree with that. However, you would need to follow that up with, "Whereas the original Xbox had a successful launch" simply because it gives insight into how silly a launch statistic is.

.Sis

 

[dantruon]

Uhhh, ok.

I disagree with the notion that you can state one way or the other if something is a success or failure only 3 weeks after it has launched. If I recall, the original Playstation was not a massive, immediate success. I'm not arguing that the Xbox 360 is on that tragectory :smile: , but I do think it is historically accurate to say that a launch does not indicate success or failure.

For example, the Xbox 360 has been very successful in NA and UK. I would not at all stand up and say, "The Xbox 360 is a success." It may still fail.

If you want to say, "The Japanese Xbox 360 launch is a total failure" then I would agree with that. However, you would need to follow that up with, "Whereas the original Xbox had a successful launch" simply because it gives insight into how silly a launch statistic is.

.Sis

you know in the long run if we keep debating this and you still hold your silly view that Xbox360 still has any chance of success in Japan then you will be looking a bit foolish.

 

[Sis]

you know in the long run if we keep debating this and you still hold your silly view that Xbox360 still has any chance of success in Japan then you will be looking a bit foolish.

You hold the view that it's fruitless for the Xbox 360 in Japan? That there is absolutely nothing at all that could change anything? Based on 3 weeks of sales?

I merely suggest that a launch doesn't make or break a console. How is that silly?

.Sis

 

[dantruon]

You hold the view that it's fruitless for the Xbox 360 in Japan? That there is absolutely nothing at all that could change anything? Based on 3 weeks of sales?

I merely suggest that a launch doesn't make or break a console. How is that silly?

.Sis

do you honestly think that any games right now when released will make the xbox360 shipped in the hundred of thousand over there? even the proven franchise of DOA4 could not even make the 360 get over 20k for the week. So what make you think other games that is an unproven franchise coming out in Japan will make it sell like hot cake?

 

[Nicked]

I think we need to define success for the Xbox360 in Japan.

I personally believe 3M in 5years is what the Xbox360 has to achieve, and it could do it, Mistwalker titles pending. But I think its got an equal of better chance of selling under 1M, which is double the original Xbox itself, and some may consider that an accomplishment, whereas to me its an enormous failure. So eh, its not black and white.

 

[AlphaWolf]

do you honestly think that any games right now when released will make the xbox360 shipped in the hundred of thousand over there? even the proven franchise of DOA4 could not even make the 360 get over 20k for the week. So what make you think other games that is an unproven franchise coming out in Japan will make it sell like hot cake?

It never has to sell like hot cake, they only have to maintain reasonable sales over the course of time.

 

[dantruon]

It never has to sell like hot cake, they only have to maintain reasonable sales over the course of time.

so the first 3 weeks of launch and in the third week with the most anticipated game for the system released and the console sell 12k, does it sound reasonable to you ? in the mean time the ps2 which is the last generation console system sell 72k and that is roughly 6 times more, again does that sound reasonable to you????????????

when will you guy will learn to say that "im wrong, sorry is my bad for being stubborn and i must admit the xbox360 is a failure in Japan right now, but it prospect might get brighter in the future"

 

[Magnum PI]

remember that at its launch, the xbox360 sold less units than the xbox in japan.

not very encouraging, isn't it..

 

[AlphaWolf]

so the first 3 weeks of launch and in the third week with the most anticipated game for the system released and the console sell 12k, does it sound reasonable to you ? in the mean time the ps2 which is the last generation console system sell 72k and that is roughly 6 times more, again does that sound reasonable to you????????????

What's the price on those ps2?

when will you guy will learn to say that "im wrong, sorry is my bad for being stubborn and i must admit the xbox360 is a failure in Japan right now, but it prospect might get brighter in the future"

You talk like MS should just give up and cancel all Japanese development, pull the console off of the shelves in Japan because it hasn't sold millions in the first 3 weeks. There are a number of very successful products that have gotten off to slow starts.

Your continued ranting is childish. Get over it already.

 

[dantruon]

What's the price on those ps2?



You talk like MS should just give up and cancel all Japanese development, pull the console off of the shelves in Japan because it hasn't sold millions in the first 3 weeks. There are a number of very successful products that have gotten off to slow starts.

Your continued ranting is childish. Get over it already.

Childish you say? is it you who is childish who still think the 360 stil have a chance in Japan.

 

[randycat99]

You could really entertain yourself by asking AW what would the scenario have to be before he is willing to declare it a failure in Jpn. Just how low does the bar go, you know?

 

[Magnum PI]

there could be a spasm in the japanese xbox360 sales in japan with the release of DOA4, but it just would be a spasm.

in the mind of the buyers who'll buy the xbox360 at this time, they don't buy a xbox360, they buy DOA4.

 

[randycat99]

...sort of like that month Halo2 came out, and they thought the sales for the month was absolute proof that XBox sales were on a sharp upswing trend?

 

[overclocked]

All that has bought it already with DOA4 in mind is hardcoregamers but why would the regular japanese-gamer go out and buy a system for just one game?

 

[Sis]

You could really entertain yourself by asking AW what would the scenario have to be before he is willing to declare it a failure in Jpn. Just how low does the bar go, you know?

I think 6mos-1 year is a better timeframe. Certainly not 3 weeks. And I'll reiterate: I do not believe the Xbox 360 can be a large success in Japan. I do, however, feel that it can do better than it's launch indicates. As far as DOA game is concerned (ironic title given the apparent accuracy for the Xbox 360 launch): I have yet to see anyone tell me why DOA should do anything for the Xbox 360 since it did nothing for the first Xbox.

The difference this generation is the RPG wildcards. We need to see what--if any--impact they have on the Japanese market.

.Sis

 

[Sis]

...sort of like that month Halo2 came out, and they thought the sales for the month was absolute proof that XBox sales were on a sharp upswing trend?

You just gave an example of how looking at data from a small time slice leads to innacurate conclusions.

.Sis

 

[Guden Oden]

Childish you say? is it you who is childish who still think the 360 stil have a chance in Japan.

Of course it's childish to dismiss the 360 after less than a month after launch. If it's still struggling this time next year, then we might start talking, but this is much too soon.

You accuse other forum members of being fanpeople and yet you make numerous controversial and aggressive posts like this one, based on nothing but conviction and zero facts... *shakes head* That's the textbook definition of a fanperson, and bordering on troll I might add.

 

[scooby_dooby]

do you honestly think that any games right now when released will make the xbox360 shipped in the hundred of thousand over there? even the proven franchise of DOA4 could not even make the 360 get over 20k for the week. So what make you think other games that is an unproven franchise coming out in Japan will make it sell like hot cake?

Of course it's possible, Blue Dragon is the 8th most wanted game on japan on ANY SYSTEM.

Is it so hard to imagine a big hit RPG like BD selling a million copies over the course of a year?

8th most anticipated game

I mean you might have a point if Japanese seemed indifferent to Sakaguchi, but BD started at 16th most anticipated, slowly rose to 12, and now sits as the 8th most anticipated game in japan. Obviously there are literally MILLIONS of japanese gamers who want to play BlueDragon.

I'll tell you what's silly, to think a console launching with no blockbuster RPG's, and that had no RPG's in the past, will suddenly have strong sales in japan. Expecting strong sales for the 360 launch, now THAT is silly...