Xbox 360 50 Euro price cut March 14
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I think Sony will go the game-bundling route in Europe instead of a price drop, we know there is a GT-Prologue pack-in coming and I just found this new package with Uncharted and NFS:
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I think it is more likely they drop the price in NA than in Europe. The fact that they stopped bundling "Spiderman 3" could mean they plan to shave off a few dollars instead.
So according to you,a HDV add-on to watch a dying movie is absolutely needed to play games and use a x360....
I dont get what your trying to show with theese figures. All of the consoles can be used for what they are supposed to do (play games) right out of the box, you dont need any extras (in theory anyway).
The wii, certainly costs alot more than $200 bucks, considering how much nintendo charges you for the wii-mote (and then charges you for the nunchuk). Further, the Wii doesn't offer any video playback capabilities, so, i guess we need to add a bluray player here or something.
What? X360 needs a hddvd addon and the Wii gets away for not having even DVDplayback?
You know what i paid for my X360? I paid the retail price, and i paid for extra controllers, and games after that.
You know what i paid for my PS3? I paid the retail price + controllers and paid for a couple games after that. Without counting games cost (cuz i have more games on the older platform) it all adds out to that the PS3 40gb costed me $50 more than the X360 did 2 years ago. Pretty much the same.
While the PS3 may have better technology in it, thus being "a better value", the HDDVD addon (which has sold a mere 100k) is certainly not a necessity to use the consoles for what they were meant to.
Thats a completely usless estimate, most people use their current console well after the next one is out. And you really dont know when the next gen consoles will be out, so its would all be based on numbers drawn from your own arse
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RancidLunchmeat
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I'd just like to thank Nuc for reminding me of the ignore feature.
Back on topic, if the Canadian price drop was just to 'realign' the price of the console with the US price and this UK drop is just to 'realign' the price of the console with the Canadian and US price, then MS is out of their minds.
Then again, I'm still witnessing the shortages that we discussed earlier and there's little point in cutting the price when demand is unknown because supply is limited.
Back on topic, if the Canadian price drop was just to 'realign' the price of the console with the US price and this UK drop is just to 'realign' the price of the console with the Canadian and US price, then MS is out of their minds.
Then again, I'm still witnessing the shortages that we discussed earlier and there's little point in cutting the price when demand is unknown because supply is limited.
Limited or controlled?
silhouette
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The supply is not limited any more.. Amazon and many retailers (Circuit-city, best-buy, gamestop) have plenty of it for at least a week or two. But, I am guessing that they are going to monitor the Blu-ray effect on PS3 sales and see if they have to react.
Since PS3 is pretty much even the on the software side this year, price should be MS's weapon unless -yes- they are out of their minds!
Since PS3 is pretty much even the on the software side this year, price should be MS's weapon unless -yes- they are out of their minds!
RancidLunchmeat
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What does BR and the PS3 have to do with availability of the 360?
Big Dave: Is the difference between limited or restricted relevant in terms of forecasting a price reduction? Empty shelves tell me that demand is greater than supply, regardless of the cause. The important factor, I would imagine, is how much greater.
Big Dave: Is the difference between limited or restricted relevant in terms of forecasting a price reduction? Empty shelves tell me that demand is greater than supply, regardless of the cause. The important factor, I would imagine, is how much greater.
Price reduction perhaps, but it also seems that the idea of a new SKU is a popular theory.
Maybe they want you to think demand is high.
Maybe they want you to think demand is high.
The reason is immaterial; empty shelves mean demand is outstripping supply, period. Maybe the supply is artificially constrained, who knows.
Depends. If retailers and disties expect you to be giving some kind of price protection on current stock, controlling the stock gives you (the manufacturer) better visibility of the stock that is out there and limits the $$$ in price protection required to be given (which could come in different forms, but ultimately it would be revenue or cost of some kind).
Stock control, if it were the case, could potentially point to a transition as well.
RancidLunchmeat
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I'd buy that reasoning if this hadn't been the current state of affairs for at least two months.
If this were simply a matter of reducing liability by limiting the supply chain, I can't imagine that liability supercedes two months of lost revenue.
If this were simply a matter of reducing liability by limiting the supply chain, I can't imagine that liability supercedes two months of lost revenue.
iceberg187
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Edit:
22Psi did basically the same post here
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1135848&postcount=315
22Psi did basically the same post here
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1135848&postcount=315
RancidLunchmeat
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How is that relevant to the discussion of demand exceeding supply in the US or price cuts in the UK and the potential of price cuts in the US?
iceberg187
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Microsoft cut the price and specifically mentioned Madden in their PR when they did it. Considering that Microsoft says that they want to own the launch of GTA4, this goes hand in hand with what has been said.
RancidLunchmeat
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Ah.. So you're talking about foreshadowing.
I agree that it makes perfect sense. Drop the price and advertise that if you want the 'Full GTA experience' you have to get it on the 360. So you get a double-whammy effect.
But issue of supply casts doubt on that prediction, IMO.
I agree that it makes perfect sense. Drop the price and advertise that if you want the 'Full GTA experience' you have to get it on the 360. So you get a double-whammy effect.
But issue of supply casts doubt on that prediction, IMO.
Just a poke...
Why would they do that (intentionally restrict supply to make it appears as more demanded)? There's been a heck of a lot more damage from the bad PR of Sony beating them last NPD I think. It plays into the whole PS3 on the rise, 360 on the way down thing.
Heck, on message boards there appears to be either general non-awareness of any 360 shortage in general, or denial that it even exists from those who favor competing consoles.
But anyway, as has been mentioned above, it appears any 360 shortages are fully over anyway, as of right now and for the last week or so. MS said they would end in March, they actually seemed to end in the last week of February.
What if the lack of stock is because much of the stock shops are getting is being dressed up ready for GTA bundles, and they'll splash the market with cheap GTAIV consoles?
The problem with all these lack of stock theories imo is, 360 stock appears to be back in full force. Why again today I noticed at Wal Mart several premiums and an Arcade in the display case, I'm sure they've many more in the back. Anybody can also check on line without leaving their chair, full stock of all models at major retailers and amazon, etc.
So I think any "drying up the channel in preparation for something" theories don't make too much sense now, as the channel simply isn't "dry" anymore. It may be boring, but imo nothing is happening, except probably a $50 cut which is exciting enough I suppose.
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