Windows 10 [2014 - 2017]

[Arwin]

I see .. Yeah, you can do it with Memory, add the history item to memory, but not with history. That should have been a simple thing to implement actually, they probably just didn't think of it? Triple bar thing is called Hamburger menu officially by the way.

The calculator that I made I think also inspired by someone here allows you to edit and insert in your history and it will automatically recalculate any affected lines. That would also have been pretty easy in this calculator. They should post the source into GitHub if they haven't already so we can update it.

 

[zed]

Now, I'm not saying that NetMarketShare is the most reliable source of all, but it sure as hell is leaps and bounds more realistic with it's numbers than DAP ever is and ever will be

True, but even more accurate than netshare is statcounter & there we can see win10 already the 2nd most common desktop OS

btw I'll take a video of calc starting up next time I reboot my machine

 

[zed]

OK rebooted, note my desktop is 4k (hence the cursor not matching up where I click) first 2 are clicking on the calc app, next 2 are windows key and then typing calc

PC, i5-4430 @ 3Ghz with samsung 850 EVO SSD
you can definietly see it takes ~3 seconds to start the first time (displays a boot screen WTF)

 

[Silent_Buddha]

OK rebooted, note my desktop is 4k (hence the cursor not matching up where I click) first 2 are clicking on the calc app, next 2 are windows key and then typing calc

PC, i5-4430 @ 3Ghz with samsung 850 EVO SSD
you can definietly see it takes ~3 seconds to start the first time (displays a boot screen WTF)

Holy cow yours does take a long time to load. Mine on a slower CPU (Cherry Trail) and much slower storage device (eMMC based) starts up quite significantly faster. I wonder what might be going on with your system?

Eh? As far as I know I'm using the built in one...
I dunno wtf is up with people having slow opening, I open it from a pin to Start & its basically open instantly, certainly before I can get mouse to it/put hands to keyboard, haven't noticed it not get focus either.

Yes, it's built in just like Win 8.1 has a built in Windows Store calculator in addition to the stand alone. I guess with Windows 10, you'd call it the UWP version of the calculator which is different from the legacy style stand alone version (not a proper name, but I'm not sure what to call it) that Windows 8.1 and previous versions of Windows have.

In other words. Windows 8/8.1 has a calculator that is like the one on Win7 (non-Metro/UWP/Windows Store/whatever you want to call it) and previous versions in addition to a version that is like the Windows 10 version (Metro/UWP/Windows Store/whatever you want to call it). Windows 10 doesn't have a calculator that is similar to ones that Win7 and previous windows had. I'm sure I'm probably still not explaining it well.

Anyway, that Metro/UWP/whatever calculator has been improved significantly (both in functionality as well as speed) from the version that shipped with Win 8/8.1.

Regards,
SB

 

[Silent_Buddha]

I don't quite understand your reasoning. Edge doesn't replace IE, they're both installed in Windows 10 and you can just choose which one you prefer. You can change the behavior of the start menu or resize it to your preferences, etc.

I can think of very few valid reason to hold on to Windows 8.1 over Windows 10, and you haven't mentioned one of them.

There's a lot of things that I don't like about Windows 10 from a useability POV compared to Windows 8.1 You can look through my previous posts on it in this thread as I don't feel like rehashing most of them. But one of the main ones I have to deal with everytime I use my Surface 3 is the start screen. Not only does it scroll vertically now, but it also holds less icons per screen than Win8.1. And when in portrait orientation, it's laughably bad as there are massive columns of wasted space on both sides of a relatively thin center area where program icons are. Using the default start menu isn't something I want to do as it's a massive step backwards, IMO, hence I have it configured it to replicate the start screen as much as possible. Unfortunately it fails horribly at doing that.

As well it's missing the very useful and intuitive side swipes from Windows 8/8.1. Especially swiping up from the bottom as well as from the right. IMO, the UI is just a massive step backwards from Windows 8/8.1 I know they tried to make it more like Windows 7 (whose UI I now detest), but they could have done that without ruining the UI advances they'd made for Windows 8/8.1.

Not everything with the changes to the UI are bad however. The "control" cluster at the bottom of the right-swipe menu is an improvement, but they could have done that without removing much of the functionality of the original right-swipe.

Regards,
SB

 

[BRiT]

OK rebooted, note my desktop is 4k (hence the cursor not matching up where I click) first 2 are clicking on the calc app, next 2 are windows key and then typing calc

PC, i5-4430 @ 3Ghz with samsung 850 EVO SSD
you can definietly see it takes ~3 seconds to start the first time (displays a boot screen WTF)

Very odd indeed. Even on my substantially slower system, i3-530 and original OCZ Vertex SSD it barely takes 1.5 seconds to start.

 

[Blazkowicz]

That's an excellent calculator layout indeed, although the look is exceedingly flat, next to not flat at all icons.
Launching speed is worrying but in the last few years, I've got used to e.g. VLC launching slow, or even a text editor (linux, HDD). I guess that all libraries have gotten bloated (i.e. graphics toolkit, fonts library, media libraries, etc.)

It's sad but we no longer come across things like unsupported russian or asian characters, unsupported image file, etc.
Go back to 1999 and they would think you're crazy if you tell them 2GB is needed for a desktop OS, or that 512MB on a phone isn't enough. Flip side : I feel it's reasonable to have any computers specs as long as you have a ton of RAM, even with no SSD.

 

[Kaotik]

Is it just the video, or is the OS that jerky live for you, too? That seems unbearable for me, but can't say I've seen anything similar on my i5-3670K @ 4GHz with Win10 Pro x64 on Samsung 830 256GB SSD

 

[zed]

s it just the video, or is the OS that jerky live for you, too?

its just the video (recorded at 18fps)

Very odd indeed. Even on my substantially slower system, i3-530 and original OCZ Vertex SSD it barely takes 1.5 seconds to start.

the thing is I can start up photoshop (from fresh boot) and its only about 0.5 second slower than calc

 

[Kyyla]

That is weird my Surface 3 with emmc and an atom CPU boots up calc faster. Maybe you should just keep it in the background if you end up starting it all the time. Can't take too much memory

 

[Arwin]

There's a lot of things that I don't like about Windows 10 from a useability POV compared to Windows 8.1 You can look through my previous posts on it in this thread as I don't feel like rehashing most of them. But one of the main ones I have to deal with everytime I use my Surface 3 is the start screen. Not only does it scroll vertically now, but it also holds less icons per screen than Win8.1. And when in portrait orientation, it's laughably bad as there are massive columns of wasted space on both sides of a relatively thin center area where program icons are. Using the default start menu isn't something I want to do as it's a massive step backwards, IMO, hence I have it configured it to replicate the start screen as much as possible. Unfortunately it fails horribly at doing that.

As well it's missing the very useful and intuitive side swipes from Windows 8/8.1. Especially swiping up from the bottom as well as from the right. IMO, the UI is just a massive step backwards from Windows 8/8.1 I know they tried to make it more like Windows 7 (whose UI I now detest), but they could have done that without ruining the UI advances they'd made for Windows 8/8.1.

Not everything with the changes to the UI are bad however. The "control" cluster at the bottom of the right-swipe menu is an improvement, but they could have done that without removing much of the functionality of the original right-swipe.

Regards,
SB

So this doesn't work on your device?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/getstarted-make-start-full-screen

 

[Albuquerque]

So this doesn't work on your device?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/getstarted-make-start-full-screen

Yeah, my wife had the same general complaint about her Surface and the Win10 start screen coming from WIn8. The "full screen start menu" option solved her gripe immediately.

 

[Davros]

How do I do this in Win10 ?

 

[hoom]

Settings -> System -> Notifications & Actions -> 'Select which icons appear on the taskbar'
Also the system ones are in 'Turn system icons on or off'

Or right click on the clock -> Customise notification icons (takes you to the 'Notifications & Actions' screen)

Not exactly the most intuitive location...

 

[Silent_Buddha]

So this doesn't work on your device?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/getstarted-make-start-full-screen

I have it set to full screen. But it still scrolls vertically. And on a tablet device (Surface 3) in portrait mode, there is only one column of tiles with huge empty spaces on both sides. Not only is it less useful to scroll vertically, but there is so much more wasted screen space.

There is also no option in Windows 10 to reduce the amount of wasted space on a start screen unlike Windows 8.1 (show more tiles on start screen).

So with Win10 I end up with far far less tiles available on the start screen than I could have on Windows 8.1.

Regards,
SB

 

[Albuquerque]

There is also no option in Windows 10 to reduce the amount of wasted space on a start screen unlike Windows 8.1 (show more tiles on start screen).

???

Settings -> Personalization -> Start -> Show more tiles (toggle)

 

[mrcorbo]

How do I do this in Win10 ?

You can drag and drop between the two areas. I just tested on my work PC and you can also do this in Win 7.

 

[hoom]

OOh wow you can, who'd have guessed :|

 

[Cyan]

Eh? I do that all the time in Windows 8.1. Windows key, start typing name, run program. It's functionally the same. And much easier to pin programs to your start screen using that instead of going to the apps list view.

Regards,
SB

You are right. I thought it didn't exist because a box appears at the top right side of the screen instead of where it used to be in previous Windows versions.

On a different note, IE11 is included in Windows 10. It might come in handy in the future because I cancelled my Internet service because I need to save money to pay up for my studies and it was a lot of money I had to pay for internet every month. Plus, I am kinda moving to live closer to the place where I study.

My mobile phone is going to be limited to just using 1GB of data every month, so I must use every byte carefully when enabling tethering, for instance, and Internet Explorer has that feature where you can disable animations, images and any kind of multimedia, so only the layout of the web and the text are kept. Edge doesn't have that, afaik.

 

[BRiT]

Or you could use Chrome with plugins and extensions like Ghostery, Adblock Plus (or its better equivalents), etc.