Windows 10 [2014 - 2017]

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Isn't Maxthon just a wrapper over IE?
Used to be. It has been standalone browser since 2007 (though the "shell/wrapper for IE" was developed 'till 2010) and since 2010 has supported both Trident & Webkit.
 
Wow, I didn't notice that the Windows 10 calculator was updated ... it's fantastic! I presume it's a UWP version, but it's a great design, and a huge step forward in terms of UI design and general usefulness.
 
Under linux I like xcalc. It's pretty old lol. I think it's from 1989 or earlier but the manual says :
Copyright 1994 X Consortium

Writing calculator software is easy, but I feel like they all get it slightly wrong :). Gimme 1/x and x^y in a small layout and I'm happy with it.
 
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Wow, I didn't notice that the Windows 10 calculator was updated ... it's fantastic! I presume it's a UWP version, but it's a great design, and a huge step forward in terms of UI design and general usefulness.
The only problem I have with it is that for some reason about half the time when I open it via keyboard hotkey (MS Comfort Curve 3000 with dedicated calculator button), I have to actually click on it with mouse for it take any inputs
 
The only problem I have with it is that for some reason about half the time when I open it via keyboard hotkey (MS Comfort Curve 3000 with dedicated calculator button), I have to actually click on it with mouse for it take any inputs
The problem I have is that it actually takes time to open. And it bothers showing a splashscreen. It did not in Win7.
 
The problem I have is that it actually takes time to open. And it bothers showing a splashscreen. It did not in Win7.

Weird. Of course, I'm currently using a Microsoft keyboard, so it is probably no surprise I don't have any issues ...

There is some stuff that is really awesome about it but it could have been a lot better.

Such as? I have a start of a calculator lying around that I could upgrade. ;)
 
The problem I have is that it actually takes time to open. And it bothers showing a splashscreen. It did not in Win7.
yeah off my decent PC with SSD, it takes 2+ seconds to load, how many MB's of unused libraries are they loading in the background?
 
I've got to wonder what you guys are doing. Just out of curiosity I started up Calculator on my Surface 3 (Cherry Trail) with eMMC based SSD (really slow compared to SATA) and it still takes significantly less than 2 seconds to start. Not as instant as the Windows 8 calculator, but not something where I'm wondering why it's taking so long to start.

Hmmm, just thought of something. It's the Windows Store version of Microsoft's calculator. Just tried that on my desktop running Win8.1. OK, the W10 calculator actually starts faster on my Surface 3 with W10 than the Win8.1 calculator (Metro/Windows Store version)does on my Desktop i5 with a fast SSD for the OS running Win8.1.

So they've improved it and made it massively faster than the previous Windows Store calculator that it replaces (although you can't download the W10 version through the Windows Store on Win 8.1).

I guess they got rid of the stand alone calculator in W10. That makes me sad. On the other hand it seem improved versus the stand alone. Although it seems some things were removed.

Regards,
SB
 
The problem I have is that it actually takes time to open. And it bothers showing a splashscreen. It did not in Win7.
Windows key on the keyboard, type calc, Enter. :smile2:

Easiest way to launch many programs. It is a functionality that was lost in Windows 8 for some reason where you couldn't open great programs like the Snipping Tool (perfect to capture screenshots of specific areas of your screen) by using the Windows key, type the name of the tool or an abbreviation like calc, paint, etc and click enter.

It was recovered in the new version of Windows
 
Windows key on the keyboard, type calc, Enter. :smile2:

Easiest way to launch many programs. It is a functionality that was lost in Windows 8 for some reason where you couldn't open great programs like the Snipping Tool (perfect to capture screenshots of specific areas of your screen) by using the Windows key, type the name of the tool or an abbreviation like calc, paint, etc and click enter.

It was recovered in the new version of Windows

Eh? I do that all the time in Windows 8.1. Windows key, start typing name, run program. It's functionally the same. And much easier to pin programs to your start screen using that instead of going to the apps list view.

Regards,
SB
 
Weird. Of course, I'm currently using a Microsoft keyboard, so it is probably no surprise I don't have any issues ...
I'm using MS keyboard and I have to actually click with mouse on it about half the time to get it "activated" for input (when I launch it from the dedicated calculator button on the keyboard)
Also, there is a "splash screen", but it's really quick (under 0.5 sec) and within the actual calculator window
 
But the start menu can be bloody slow in busy cpu or low memory condition when the ssd storage trashed really bad. Much faster to just use "run" using Windows R or icon.

Luckily it never occurred in devices with hdd.

But it does take long time to start the start when the cpu is simply too busy. Probably only a problem for those with Intel atoms
 
True that, if you find yourself on an unfamiliar Windows version (god forbid, could be Windows 8.0) then Win + R still works (you can even enter %programfiles% to browse for programs the old and dumb way)
On a weird linux, the most common equivalent is ALT + F2 (there are weird "helpful" and "modern" GUIs there too)
 
Perhaps I have too powerful a machine, or perhaps it is because I am currently working on a UWP test project myself and that's why all the libraries are already loaded, but everything is instantaneous for me. My wife's Samsung Book 9 Lite with AMD CPU though had never booted it up and I don't think she uses any apps, but there's only a fraction of a delay there for both the start menu and the startup of the calc app. I can only just barely see the splash screen there - I didn't even know it had one before you guys mentioned it here, because it doesn't show up when I boot it up on my machine (but that's a i7 3770 vpro, 16GB RAM, SSD + HDD, so it's quite a lot faster).

And yeah, windows key - type four letters is the default way I tend to boot up programs in Windows 8+ when I don't have them pinned already.
 
There’s something fishy about those Windows 10 market-share numbers

netmarketshare-desktop-jan-2016-100644549-primary.idge.jpg


http://www.computerworld.com/articl...ut-those-windows-10-market-share-numbers.html
 
I know for myself, I'll be holding onto Windows 8.1 until the very last moment that I can upgrade to Windows 10 for free. As far as I'm concerned Windows 8.1 is the best OS Microsoft has ever released. Windows 10 had promise, but I'm flabbergasted by some of the decisions that were made. And I'm not even talking about the ones that are just personal preference (like the way the start screen/menu scrolls vertically instead of horizontally) but things like Edge replacing IE even though it still doesn't have key functionality that a browser should have (like highlighting a word or phase and being able to search for that word or phrase on the web with a simple right click).

Reading that article just reminds me of the same articles that tried to cling to Windows XP for as along as possible when newer OSes came out. Or that clung to Win98se as long as possible when WinXP came out. Or that clung to Win 3.11 for as long as possible when Win95 came out.

I know I'm holding onto 8.1 for as long as possible, not because I think it's a better (from a technical POV) or more secure OS, but more than I'm hoping Microsoft addresses some issues I have with Win10 (improving Edge is the biggest beef I have) before I move to it on all my machines.

Regards,
SB
 
There’s something fishy about those Windows 10 market-share numbers

netmarketshare-desktop-jan-2016-100644549-primary.idge.jpg


http://www.computerworld.com/articl...ut-those-windows-10-market-share-numbers.html
That article is just more or less pure BS, you seriously can't expect to get realistic numbers from following 37 US government agencies.
Pro tip: World has lot more people than US, if you want explanation for XPs high share, just look at more developing countries, and don't forget China.
Now, I'm not saying that NetMarketShare is the most reliable source of all, but it sure as hell is leaps and bounds more realistic with it's numbers than DAP ever is and ever will be.
 
I know for myself, I'll be holding onto Windows 8.1 until the very last moment that I can upgrade to Windows 10 for free. As far as I'm concerned Windows 8.1 is the best OS Microsoft has ever released. Windows 10 had promise, but I'm flabbergasted by some of the decisions that were made. And I'm not even talking about the ones that are just personal preference (like the way the start screen/menu scrolls vertically instead of horizontally) but things like Edge replacing IE even though it still doesn't have key functionality that a browser should have (like highlighting a word or phase and being able to search for that word or phrase on the web with a simple right click).

Reading that article just reminds me of the same articles that tried to cling to Windows XP for as along as possible when newer OSes came out. Or that clung to Win98se as long as possible when WinXP came out. Or that clung to Win 3.11 for as long as possible when Win95 came out.

I know I'm holding onto 8.1 for as long as possible, not because I think it's a better (from a technical POV) or more secure OS, but more than I'm hoping Microsoft addresses some issues I have with Win10 (improving Edge is the biggest beef I have) before I move to it on all my machines.

Regards,
SB

I don't quite understand your reasoning. Edge doesn't replace IE, they're both installed in Windows 10 and you can just choose which one you prefer. You can change the behavior of the start menu or resize it to your preferences, etc.

I can think of very few valid reason to hold on to Windows 8.1 over Windows 10, and you haven't mentioned one of them. ;)
 
Such as? I have a start of a calculator lying around that I could upgrade.
Like in the Win7 version there was a sidebar where I kept the Converter open, its behind a triple bar option/dropdown click now. (but does remember previously used options in the converter which is great)
New one doesn't seem to like using history answers for successive calculations. (but has a nice long history list)
Previous version you could do like 2+3 = 5 then 4+ <click on previous answer> = 9, now it'll just replace your 4+ with 5, you can work around it with a simple calculation like that but I tend to find I want to do calculations on several previous answers & it takes longer to retype long numbers.
They took away Statistics mode. (I liked to have the brackets but don't need extra stuff that is in the Scientific/Programmer modes)

I guess they got rid of the stand alone calculator in W10. That makes me sad.
Eh? As far as I know I'm using the built in one...
I dunno wtf is up with people having slow opening, I open it from a pin to Start & its basically open instantly, certainly before I can get mouse to it/put hands to keyboard, haven't noticed it not get focus either.
 
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