So this hypothetical format is better than BD?
This guy said it best...
Who says it's hypothetical?
So this hypothetical format is better than BD?
This guy said it best...
Better than BD? In what way? If they moved to blue lasers they would have the same cost structure for manufacturing masters and need almost the same tolerances (actually they are a little worse off because of the buried layers). Nothing which makes their tech cheap now would survive the transition AFAICS.
PS. hell I seriously doubt replication for high volumes is cheaper now for VMDs compared to BR.
Anthem cited the low cost of producing on the format as a reason for backing HD VMD over HD DVD and Blu-ray.
“HD VMD is the medium for the independent film labels, allowing us to have the same worldwide presence as the major studios in the [high-def] marketplace,” Anthem Pictures CEO Charles Adelman said.
As part of its deal with NME, Anthem will serve as an authoring partner for the HD VMD format on the West Coast.
“Independents cannot afford to use the competing formats, and this is why we have such following in Europe and in the rest of the world,” NME U.S. president Alexandros Potter said.
According to Anthem Pictures, it's cheaper than both HD DVD and BD.
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6440324.html
But isn't that for 'red-laser VMD'?
One and a half years is a long time considering all the replication houses doing BR for independents had only just bought their machines and their manufacturers had only just finished creating them.According to Anthem Pictures, it's cheaper than both HD DVD and BD.
Yes, your point?
QL VMD discs have a very, very poor yield and NME are subsidising the production of said discs. Any disc technology above DL is pretty dodgy at best, hell even DVD-18 was bad and that was just dual sided DL!
As for independent studios in Europe, well, 8m PS3 users and 2m player owners would be a better market for their movies than 20-30k VMD owners.
Seriously, VMD is a ridiculous product that will go the way of the dodo. The whole thing is completely unfeasible as it doesn't use DVD style optics (making the drive more expensive) and the discs are sold at below cost to studios/publishers to gain traction in the market. That sounds like a bad business model to me. Hell Blu-ray did the same thing, but they had the PS3 and marketing muscle of Sony/Disney/Fox pushing it. What does VMD have, a few Chinese publishers based in HK and NME?
Also, I don't know what 100 layer discs you are talking about, I have seen 10 layer demonstrated, and theoretical "papers" on 20 layer discs but never 100 layer ones. In any case, Ritek have demo'd 10 layer BD at 250GB, and last I heard from TDK (which was admittedly a while ago!) they have got some funky variation designed for private studio use working at 50GB per layer SL, 33GB per layer for DL discs. Just to go through the maths, 20 layer VMD is 100GB with a max read speed similar to DVD while BD has a potential of 250GB at 10 layers (though I personally doubt anything will come higher than 50GB, but for the sake of this argument I will ignore my misgivings) and a theoretical maximum read speed of 16x which works out to 72MB/s. I know what I would pick...
What's yours? MfA says: 'if they move to blue laser, they'll have the following problems:' you say 'but red lasers are cheaper, look what this guy says'.
No offense but your whole post sounds like FUD with nothing to back it up. I also sense a tone of FEAR of VMD in your post...why? Why does MS potentially using a proprietary VMD derived format matter to you? Why are you so afraid of it?
I'll just ignore that part, too much nonsensical garbage to dig through.
Yes, because moving to blue laser isn't a problem. It's the same manufacturing process and same type of disc. It might be slightly more expensive than red laser VMD similar to how HD DVD was more expensive than DVD but since the red laser version is cheaper than both HD DVD and BD even though it used different technology the blu laser version should be competitive. Of course this is all conjecture on my part but that's my take. If someone has more inside info that can be varfiied I'd like to hear it.
Afraid? Of what? VMD! Having a laugh, right?
Fine, that's up to you, but I would like to see these 100 layer disc proposals, are there any white-papers I could read? Thought not...
There's the money shot.
You really have no idea...
Your posts speak for itself.
Why would you like to see them. Nobody claimed they existed.
I take it you don't have a source for your "extremly bad yields" FUD, but that's ok you're still a noob.
PM'd...
Your posts speak for itself.
Why would you like to see them. Nobody claimed they existed.
I take it you don't have a source for your "extremly bad yields" FUD, but that's ok you're still a noob.
The hardware itself is liscensed from toshiba.
1. There's just as much need to hack a PS3 as there is for 360...for starters more PS3's are sold outside the US, where piracy is more common.That's only because there isn't much need to hack a PS3. Hackers go after the easier target, in this case the 360, which gets them the bulk of the games anyways. It's the same with Dishnet and DirecTV. Dishnet was the easier target so the hackers went after that and got the bulk of the content there. Everything is hackable, there just has to be a need and/or demand. Blu-ray movies are in demand and there is no real easier target, so they got hacked.
I'll take your word for it, but unless it's called HD-DVD and carries the same specs right down to the supported codecs and distributed by Toshiba, it's not HD-DVD.
It can be argued that as long as the physical spec is the same, then the discs will work in both kinds of drives and they're really the same thing, since almost everything above it is just a matter of the host system and whatever software it is running.
I'm sure there are, just like there are some still trying to crack DirecTV, if anything just for the sport of it. But it's just not critical that either get cracked since the alternatives are already cracked and in plentiful supply. If there were no 360 though, I would bet you a million internets that the PS3 would have been cracked by now. Just look at blu-ray movies with their super sophisticated piracy measures. There is no alternative to blu-ray so every hacker turned their sights to it and poof, cracked. Makes no difference how complex something is, the protections always fall.