Why no talk about X850 yet???

Unit01 said:
hovz said:
ostol, theres nothing wrong with improving yields with a new process. but when you actually launch a product as if its some great new chip when in reality it will probly be 4 or 5% faster than the previous product, its an insult to customers. funny you mention them being cheaper to purchase. if im remembering correctly atis msrp of 549 is the highest they have ever placed on a video card. i sure as hell would pay a $550+ to have 4 more fps in ut2k4.

Hasn't it been like this for a long time?
9800Pro
9800XT
Even Nvidia
FX5900U
FX5950U
Nothing unusual, both do it. And the supporting arguments are in this thread.

Well the 5900 offered more FP power and an improved memory controller. 9800 Pro a new memory controller and fbuffer(if that really was such a great improvement)

9800XT (Granted)
5950 (granted)

:)
 
I find it somewhat amusing that people are so negatively focused on the new cooler (if indeed that is the new board and not some clever image manipulation work). I suppose it is inevitable that this will receive the brunt of comments given that other speculations include uninspiring clock increases; if there is nothing positive to focus on, spill all your feelings on the one negative.

Am I the only one glad to see the new cooling solution? It seems we have come full circle from the Geforce FX 5800 Ultra. That design made a lot of sense in many ways. Granted, it was loud and obnoxious, but the principles were sound (oh...the pun...the pun!). Ejecting heated air or drawing fresh air by using a dual slot solution makes sense in my book. I have no major gripes with the 6800 Ultra reference cooler, but I must admit I am somewhat perplexed as to why Nvidia decided to only widen the card without using that volume effectively with a 'dustbuster'. Even if the core or memory of the board do not require the extra cooling it is an excellent way of keeping the ambient temperatures down and keeping the rest of the system happy.
 
EasyRaider said:
I like the new cooler, too. Dual slot coolers should be standard, IMNSHO. Who needs 6 PCI slots anyway?

Not 6 perhaps, but I for example need 3, 4 if I would dualboot to Win9x, 1 for sound card, 1 for tv card, 1 for Voodoo2, 2 for Voodoo2's in SLI if I would dualboot to Win9x.
I could also need one more for another NIC.
That would equal 4 or 5.

edit: Also many use separate RAID cards
 
_xxx_ said:
Kaotik said:
1 for Voodoo2, 2 for Voodoo2's in SLI...

:oops: :LOL:

It's 2004, y' know? ;)

And yet, even though it's 2004, we don't have Glide wrappers/emulators doing all the things right or at least not working in all games ;)
 
CJ said:
What I'm more interested in... could someone downclock their X800XT PE to 400 Mhz core and leave the mem at 500 Mhz and then run some benchmarks? I'm curious to see what to expect of the X800XL which is said to be $349... can it really compete with the GF6800GT?
My 16pipe X800Pro VIVO when clocked at 400/500 gives:

3DMark05 4593
Aquamark 3 63115
 
DerekBaker said:
My 16pipe X800Pro VIVO when clocked at 400/500 gives:

3DMark05 4593
Aquamark 3 63115

Thanx. :) That 3DM2K5 score seems to be pretty much on par with a GF6800GT at default speeds. Give or take a few tweaks to the R430 core and it should be able to do a bit better than the GF6800GT.

If it scores comparably to the GF6800GT in real games and is available for $349 than this is probably the card that many people have been waiting for.
 
Does X850 mean that X800 XT and X800 XT PE are dead SKUs on PCI-E now?
 
I've got some questions in about that. If you have the latest briefing presentation they list the product line-up at the end and there are some curiousities in there.
 
DaveBaumann said:
I've got some questions in about that. If you have the latest briefing presentation they list the product line-up at the end and there are some curiousities in there.

NDA expiry Wednesday, right?
 
Kaotik said:
_xxx_ said:
Kaotik said:
1 for Voodoo2, 2 for Voodoo2's in SLI...

:oops: :LOL:

It's 2004, y' know? ;)

And yet, even though it's 2004, we don't have Glide wrappers/emulators doing all the things right or at least not working in all games ;)

What for? I can't think of any Glide-only games "worth playing" except Pandemonium and Tomb Raider 1.
 
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