Unofficial MS Target: 10M X360's sales in 12-16mo timeframe

[PC-Engine]

Are you serious? GOW is like the new Halo. Nice to see some envious individuals downplaying it.

 

[scooby_dooby]

GOW will not come to the PC for a long time after X360 anyways, so it's not really an issue, if you don't want to wait 12-16 months to play it you'll probably have to get the X360.

And I think the success of Halo 1 and 2, 13 million copies, should put to rest any notion of FPS's not selling as well on consoles.

There are many other great exclusives slated for 360 than were listed, Fable 2, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Kameo, Elder Scrolls, Alan Wake (possibly).

There's also an unnamed exclusive from bioware, 2 unnamed MMO exclusives from former GTA creator, 2 unnamed RPG exclusive's from Game Republic.

This really will be a battle of exclusives, so far PS3 has Heavenly Sword and Warhawk are really looking great, GTA and FF are up in the air as far as exclusivity, MGS4 will probably be PS3 exclusive and of course there's GT4.

Right now all I see is heavenly sword that would make me buy the system, but it looks so good it might be enough alone. And I'm sure there will be alot more announced in the next 12 months.

It's gonna be great competition, and no matter who wins, we always win.

 

[:enemyglider:]

Exactly, and if that is the case (which I didn't know whether GoW has been announced for PC or not, or even hinted at) then I would consider GoW a 360 exclusive until announced for PC, although Allard is saying that GoW will be for PC as well. (http://pc.ign.com/articles/618/618711p1.html). A question that I've had for a while about FPS games is, I wonder how many people would buy an FPS on a console if they could also get it on PC, and how many people prefer a mouse/keyboard to a controller... That's one of the reasons that I haven't bought a FPS on a console to date, as I'd rather play them on PC. I know there are others with the same opinion, although I have no idea how many. In either case, that's a bit off topic, and my point was just that some people will buy a FPS (such as GoW and Quake 4) on PC rather than on a console so I wonder just how much of a system seller they are... although for all I know they could be huge on the 360.

That's all well and good until you consider the fact that GoW is about as much of a FPS as Resident Evil 4 or Splinter Cell.

 

[jvd]

To be fair sony has some key 3rd party support that will bring in the crowds . But as I just said , 3rd party support. These can change at any point . If ms wanted mgs 4 (or is it 5 ? ) on the x360 they could pay them enough to make it worth thier time to port it . Or they can pay enough to make it worth thier time to make it only on the x360 .

Remember at this time there is alot up in the air . Things like x360s market penetration and the ps3s launch date and penetration.

To many developers the units sold on the x360 which will be larger than what the ps3 launches with (we all know x360 will sell better than 0 units ) and some cash thrown at them will be enough become multiplatform games .

Which while not having mgs as an exlusive , not letting sony have it as an exclusive is just as good to ms . I really think next gen will be very interesting . Alot of expected things may not end up the way we think they will end up


As for the pc ports of x360 games. I don't see this as a major problem. Sure for me i spend alot on my pc every year . So really gears of war would be better for me on a pc . However my friends don't spend that money on a pc . Heck they spend 500$ on a pc every 3 years when i tell them they should update it and even then i build it . So for them gow is as good as an exlusive and i would bet to most its the same .

 

[PARANOiA]

As for the pc ports of x360 games. I don't see this as a major problem. Sure for me i spend alot on my pc every year . So really gears of war would be better for me on a pc . However my friends don't spend that money on a pc . Heck they spend 500$ on a pc every 3 years when i tell them they should update it and even then i build it . So for them gow is as good as an exlusive and i would bet to most its the same .

I think this quote is interesting... I spend more than most people on my PC every year (and my girlfriend just about murders me for it!), however my PC ages a lot quicker these days... what ran HL2 decently at 1920x1200 (native res for my 24" LCD) won't come close to running GOW at any res that'll come close.

Now, that's nothing new, of course. However, gamers which previously upgraded their computer will now see awesome graphics on consoles for way, way cheaper (less than one-season's upgrade) and may in fact put those upgrade dollars into things like a HDTV to run it.

Add to the mix that most people who spend enough on their PC's to run a game like GOW/Unreal 2k7 more often than not have the means and know-how to get these games for free from torrent-sites. And (speaking for people I know) most do this, since a "$(AU)3000 gaming PC" in their head includes free games. On a $500 console it's much more reasonable to splash out $100 on a game.

So in the end, in my humble opinion, GoW on PC, like Riddick on PC, Halo on PC, or MGS on PC, GTA on PC, doesn't really look like a threat at all for consoles.

 

[Clashman]

The rest of Asia is a far more important market than Japan, about 1,2 million units have been sold in countries such as Korea and Singapore.

('Asia' = 1,7 million Xbox'es sold)

One thing to keep in mind is that XBox's sold in Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, China, et all, might actually be losing MS a good chunk of money. Piracy is absolutely rampant in all of those countries, and I don't think too many people who own the consoles would actually buy the games, which is what MS needs to make money.

 

[jvd]

June 22, 2005 - Hitting the newswire at the same time as Microsoft Vice President Peter Moore's speech on the company's plans to reach the sales mark of 10 million sold-through units first, little-known Kagan Research laid down a whopper of a prediction. The Xbox 360 will sell 11 million units worldwide by 2007. We love little-known research companies that make bold predictions. They make our days joyful.

"We believe Sony PS3 will be the strongest seller of next-generation videogame consoles," said Kagan analyst Irina Mulvey. "However, Microsoft's Xbox 360 will narrow the gap with Sony to come within 28% of the PS3 installed base -- selling almost twice as many next-gen consoles as Nintendo Revolution by 2010."

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/628/628168p1.html

 

[Shifty Geezer]

28% huh? I'd love to know how they calculated this figure

 

[London Geezer]

28% huh? I'd love to know how they calculated this figure

The old Sounds better than 25% and 30% would be flying high way

 

[Evil_Cloud]

Bah, there aren't enough factors known yet to make a credible prediction.

Pricing, availability, production costs, possible manufacturing defects, marketing,...
Even more important is the current console market, will people buy the new consoles, or will they stay with what's available now (there's still a lot of titles coming up), and for how long?

Revolution has still to be revealed (more than just the design and the download service), Sony still has to jump into a higher gear, and Microsoft still needs to sort some things out (pricing).