there is no NV47, but G70 is on the way

LOL. This thread and the news that spawned it make me laugh.
 
IMO, G70 is whats in the new Dell Inspiron XPS.

Although thats the same configuration of chip as the original Go 6800 I know its not - NV41 was a 130nm IBM based part whereas this is a 110nm TSMC part (hence the clock increase). Initially this was said to me to be NV42M, but I have reason to suspect that this is what G70 is now.
 
DaveBaumann said:
Initially this was said to me to be NV42M, but I have reason to suspect that this is what G70 is now.
That makes a lot of sense, and I do like the "G70" label better than the "nV42M" one by far......but why did you guess "generation" instead of "go" then? :?
 
DaveBaumann said:
IMO, G70 is whats in the new Dell Inspiron XPS.

Although thats the same configuration of chip as the original Go 6800 I know its not - NV41 was a 130nm IBM based part whereas this is a 110nm TSMC part (hence the clock increase). Initially this was said to me to be NV42M, but I have reason to suspect that this is what G70 is now.

Is NV41 definitely an IBM 130nm part? Couldn't original Go 6800 just be 12 pipe NV40 and the Go 6800 Ultra be NV41? Now available due to Alviso and MXM?
 
Seems likely, given that they're advertising Pure Video. AFAIK, no current 6800U GPU offers full WMV acceleration, whereas the PCIe spins of the 6600/GT and 6800 do.

Edit: the UT2K4 numbers look odd, and don't make sense from either a flyby or botmatch perspective, AFAIK. Why does the card take a hit going from 10x7 to 16x12, yet no hit adding AA+AF? I can't think of something that scales with res but not with AA+AF. Vertex shader load stays constant regardless of res, right? Did we shift from a CPU to a fillrate (not bandwidth and obviously not shader) limitation? Does this mobile 6800U have a full 16 or 12 ROPs?
 
well, they could have switched to NV41 for non ultras at this point. perhaps the 130nm part was used to get to market more quickly and/or for AGP systems.
 
Pete said:
Edit: the UT2K4 numbers look odd, and don't make sense from either a flyby or botmatch perspective, AFAIK. Why does the card take a hit going from 10x7 to 16x12, yet no hit adding AA+AF? I can't think of something that scales with res but not with AA+AF. Vertex shader load stays constant regardless of res, right? Did we shift from a CPU to a fillrate (not bandwidth and obviously not shader) limitation? Does this mobile 6800U have a full 16 or 12 ROPs?
Well they're using the magic "75" series of drivers, mebbe AA & AF is free with 'em? ;)
 
Voltron, NV40 is AGP, NV41M has always been PCI Express; all notebook configurations that have used Go 6800 so far are PCI Express based hence they have used N41M. The information on NV42M came from NVIDIA's mobile product manager.
 
digitalwanderer said:
DaveBaumann said:
Initially this was said to me to be NV42M, but I have reason to suspect that this is what G70 is now.
That makes a lot of sense, and I do like the "G70" label better than the "nV42M" one by far......but why did you guess "generation" instead of "go" then? :?

Gee, Digi, you think when Dave guesses wrong on his own in public that his PM box might fill up with interesting tidbits from even more interesting Lurkers? And that he can't quite admit it publicly without outing lurkers and over-validating "speculation" sooner than some people would like? ;) I would think that's a cheap way for some PR types to build up a few brownie-points here and there.

Edit: Whupsie, should have kept reading!
 
DaveBaumann said:
Personally I think G70 is NV42, its too low end to be NV47/8.
NV42 is NV41 @ 110nm TSMC. It's the same chip to the driver. I even heard that they are already selling as GF6800 PCIE.
 
So NV42M is the Dell 6800 I remember reading about, seeing, and linking to a little while back? It's just now getting a name? IIRC, someone at Anandtech posted about his Dell 6800, and GamePC posted a review of a smaller MSI 6800. I may be mixing stories here, though.
 
Well, it one of them! The XPS definately uses NV42M, I've had further confirmation from Dell today.
 
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