The G92 Architecture Rumours & Speculation Thread
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Well, I don't know that we know for sure re RV670 yet, but I will say that for an actual known factor they are competing against themselves for 8800GTX owners upgrade dollars. And I, being in that class, look at your bid for my upgrade dollars and laugh.
It's been a year. This part doesn't get "refresh" treatment, it seems to me. I think it's going to take a GX2 to really get a "wowza, where's my wallet" from their primary market. Tho it also might be the case that their traditional market isn't the only fish they're trying to get into the frying pan this time around.
Any rate, for legal reasons I should probably shut up now, even tho I don't know anything (as of right this minute).
I do not think, that upgrading on the RV670X2X(2xRV670@750MHz + 2x512MB@ 1x00MHz GDDR4) is the best idea for 8800GTX-owner, since I expect from it 2x 2900XT performance in good cases, if crossfire works good, which would deliver ~40% more performance in average.
Not worse than RV670X2X and my solution would have an advantage, if your wallet is big enough, you can buy three of it, to experience "The new Ultimate Gaming".
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I'm slightly more optimistic. But not much.So do you think NV will deactivate 8C-289mm²-G92 to 6C an try to clock it to 2.4GHz SD on a GX2-SKU?
GX2 is imo a stupid/less-than-ideal concept until we have real multi-gpu-technologies, which I doubt we will see in 2008.
Jawed
I think the explosion upwards of total graphics solutions price ranges have lead IHVs to believe that a pure top-down scalability model is no longer the best solution. That aiming more in the middle and scaling in both directions is the way to go. Looking at the fat part of the market, I'm not sure I can disagree with them either.
But we've had this conversation before. Time will tell.
But we've had this conversation before. Time will tell.
He's either on crack or VERY pissed with nV for some reason. I never read such bunch of crap in my life.
Because it doesn't need to be on Monday
Remember that nV generally always relesed a new high-end about twice as fast as the previous gen? That's exactly what you'll see soon and I'm talking single chip solution. Mark my words
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Based on the liberty by which Nvidia decided to call the top mobile GPU the "8700M GT" (on the other hand, the 8400M GT is in fact equivalent to the 128bit bus desktop 8500 GT) when it was just a 8600M GT with higher clocks, i still have some doubts we're talking about the same G92 core for notebooks.
But if it's true, then it will be a hell of a speed up in notebook parts, that's for sure.
So do you think NV will deactivate 8C-289mm²-G92 to 6C an try to clock it to 2.4GHz SD on a GX2-SKU?
GX2 is imo a stupid/less-than-ideal concept until we have real multi-gpu-technologies, which I doubt we will see in 2008.
I don't know about shader speed, but it makes as much sense as deactivating 2C on a single core part and selling it as a performance part, ala the all-but-confirmed original plan for the 8800GT. Those parts may now possibly be relegated to a 8800GS and/or a GX2. The differance being on the GX2 part, it would be done because:
A. It would fit the thermal envelope of 225W.
B. It would be faster than anything a single core could muster.
C. It would keep from surrendering the high-end to R680, if in fact it is faster than a full-fledged 8C single-core part, which I believe it will/would be.
You know Nvidia. Dual issue MADD+MUL or a 3-issue MADD that can handle special function, the later being unlikely, they will quote the top theoretical performance, even if it is only in CUDA.
Wither it be 1core with 128 shaders @ ~2600 shader clocks or 2cores with 192 shaders @ ~1750 shader clocks...or heck, 224 shaders @ ~1500 shader clocks ...To us it'd be 660+Gflops + SF, to the marketing team and the uneducated it'd be one teraflop, and that's what matters...The check box.
Same thing with R680. Even if it's more cut and dry on issuing the ALUs, the goal of the product (in marketing, not business terms) undoubtedly will be to have a part >1TF. Heck, they even mention it will have a clock above 800...which is the lowest "tidy" clock capable of being greater than 1Tflop (320x2x10x2x800=1.024Tflops). If that isn't blatant, I don't know what is.
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The Inq (and Charlie specifically) has been blacklisted by Nvidia for quite a while now. Nvidia actually directly responded to an Inq story a few months back and the Inq had an article about how maybe they were no longer blacklisted.
You clearly have never seen the Nvidia t-shirt that says "the ultimate threesome" on the front and lists GeForce, nForce, and Vista on the back. I really wonder how the hell that got through marketing and printed.
Can't wait to see what the new and improved 8800 GTS can do. These 65nm GPU's seem to do alright.:smile:
Has this been posted?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2509293&postcount=97
5% yield?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2509293&postcount=97
5% yield?
Some pictures of G92 chip and accompanying PCB. (May have been posted already, not sure).
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/25/8800gt-die-pixellated-huge
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/25/8800gt-die-pixellated-huge
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