Sony: 2M PS3s shipped

Thats what I have seen here too in this part of Florida... but I guess at that price point it only makes sense...

Its not so much the price point. Of course, theres alot out there complaining about the price, but im sure the not-so-fast sales has something to do with lack of games most people are interested in.

Yeah, price is a big issue, and if the console was alot cheaper than it is now, people would pick it up but all im saying is price is only one piece of the pie ;) games also has something to do with it :smile:
 
Next time, it would maybe interesting to also ask what units they have? I.e. 60gb or 20gb?
 
70 x 12 = 840. So I reckon you used 12 weeks a year instead of 12 months a year ;).

March is going to be a pretty big month for Sony - it's imperative they start hyping up the titles that are coming out in time for the European release, and start showing prospective buyers what they could be getting, rather than relying on "trust me, it'll be fantastic". Undoubtedly the biggest issue thus far with sales (though I think they're doing pretty well for themselves thus far) has been price in relation to what you're getting for your money. Once Sony put some genuine effort into promoting the games they have lined up, I think it's a pretty safe bet that sales will increase appropriately. So I consider extrapolating current sales rates into a year-end figure to be pretty inaccurate.
 
Next time, it would maybe interesting to also ask what units they have? I.e. 60gb or 20gb?

Everywhere I've gone they have had both. Not just a few either, lot's of units. one best buy had about 12 units on dec 23rd. I was suprised and asked why they hadn't been sold out. the employee told me he thought price was the problem.
 
To me, for instance, it says "it's available". There will be others for which it screams "it's not selling".
And others still will cry "it's fake!"

well exactly. Thast why I asked him what he implied with that pic.
 
At this point I don't think we can currently believe much of what Sony says. How many times did they re adjust their estimates? What about the American NPD numbers where they said they shipped a lot but sales numbers showed that if Sony shipped what they said that almost 200,000 PS3 are sitting on store shelves?
 
they only missed their target by two weeks, which isn't really so bad.

But considering that in this case 2 weeks is a third of the projected time, it IS quite bad IMO. What's worse though, is Sony PR's inability to admit mistakes / inaccurate forecasts / ..., i.e. lie through their teeth most of the time.
 
Nintendo had Zelda to push sales of the Wii at launch and 360 had a large library and Gears of War. PS3 didn't have any big launch titles. Once MGS4, Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo or other big titles I don't play come out, sales will increase significantly. I think the price does keep a lot of people away though.
 
At this point I don't think we can currently believe much of what Sony says. How many times did they re adjust their estimates? What about the American NPD numbers where they said they shipped a lot but sales numbers showed that if Sony shipped what they said that almost 200,000 PS3 are sitting on store shelves?


Well, I drove down one shopping street in my city looking for a Wii nunchuck and saw four or five PS3s spread out across a number of stores. I think 200,000 PS3s sitting on shelves all across NA and Japan is possible.
 
Am I the only one that think is a bit strange that GT:HD has only been downloaded by 300k people? I mean, if you have a PS3, you would want to play it and since it is free there are no real barriers. Can anyone think of a reason for this?

It is a 600-700MB download that you cannot schedule or leave in the background. Only a select hardcore will actually bother to download it.
 
I'm pretty sure it won't. That doesn't work for the PSP either - I tested that some time ago with a US UMD and a US Firmware. I think only recently there is a kind of hack available for homebrew enabled PSPs, but that took years.

I think BD regions will be different than DVD regions.

I thought US, EU and Japan were all going to be in the same region, the last I heard.
 
how come ps3 is delayed in europe when i think they reached 2m shipment earlier than wii or 360??? is it because sony weren't sure whether they will solve blu-ray diode problem or not???
 
I think BD regions will be different than DVD regions.

I thought US, EU and Japan were all going to be in the same region, the last I heard.

AFAIK US and Japan are in Region 1 while EU is in Region 2..... So far only HD-DVD is region free (and that may change as well).... But that is for movies... Games are supposed to be region free (if publisher wants it that way)
 
This doesn't look promising. :(

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5721

Report: Sony's Global PS3 Sales to Miss Target by 25%

Nomura Securities cites poor U.S. holiday sales as reason for cutting PS3 shipment forecasts by 25%

If the latest figures from Nomura Securities are any indication, Sony is having a bit of trouble moving its $599 and $499 PlayStation 3 consoles in North America. The Nomura report simply reiterates what many Americans are seeing at electronics retailers across the United States: store shelves filled with PS3s looking for a home.
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Nomura reports that for the fiscal quarter ending in March, PS3 shipments will total 4.5 million units instead of Sony’s forecast of 6 million units. For the next two fiscal years, Nomura is cutting its PS3 sales forecasts from 16 million to 10 million and from 18 million to 11 million respectively.

Is the BRD the only thing keeping Sony from producing PS3 faster?
 
These Nomura guys are out to lunch anyways, first they had PS3 pegged for 16mill next fiscal year, and 18million the year after that?? What are they smoking to think it could do those kind of numbers??? 34million in 2 years? At a pricepoint of $400-600?

Analysts indeed.
 
These Nomura guys are out to lunch anyways, first they had PS3 pegged for 16mill next fiscal year, and 18million the year after that?? What are they smoking to think it could do those kind of numbers??? 34million in 2 years? At a pricepoint of $400-600?

Analysts indeed.

Exactly. These guys are clowns...



Anyway, on the side it all pretty much makes sense to me. Not sure what you're confused by QRoach...

1 million shipped to the US by year-end 2006, ~500k sold at retail in Japan in a similar timeframe, and now a claim that 1 million shipped has been reached in Japan two weeks later. No big discrepencies here I don't think, especially since there were probably a couple of thousand (50?) PS3's unsold in Japan even when that Enterbrain sales figure came out. So ~400k shipped in an additional 2/3 weeks doesn't seem a contradictory claim at all.

Remember people that NPD and Enterbrain track sold to the consumer, not shipped into the retail channel.

Time to start stocking up for the European launch though, thats for sure! They can ease off the gas in terms of stocking North America, as there already seems to be enough supply on shore already to last them through the rest of the month at least.
 
These Nomura guys are out to lunch anyways, first they had PS3 pegged for 16mill next fiscal year, and 18million the year after that?? What are they smoking to think it could do those kind of numbers??? 34million in 2 years? At a pricepoint of $400-600?

Analysts indeed.

You ever see the fiscal world wide sales of the PS2, it was moving 18 million within its 2nd full fiscal year on the market. The first full year it only moved 9 million but 7 of those months saw the ps2 as a japan exclusive console (~$387.00 initial price point) with massive shortages late into the first year. I doubt anyone expects the $400-$600 price point to last anywhere past the Q4 2007.

I'll admit there estimates seem overly optimistic but they probably bought Sony's outlook, line, hook and sinker.
 
By adding the Media Create stuff, it appeared just a week or so ago they were in the 450k range in Japan. Is Media Create that inaccurate? Or did Sony deliver nearly 500K PS3s to Japan in the last 2 weeks? If so, how have they sold to consumers? What is availability like?

Media Create is sold, not shipped.
 
2 million shipped at 16 January. Taking Sony's own number of being able to produce 1.2 million PS3's per month, that would put them at roughly 5 million shipped at the end of March. Assuming they won't make the 1.2 million exactly, their figure of 4.5 million shipped at the end of March seems reasonable. I don't think Sony has to worry too much about having some PS3s lying on the shelves in the U.S. and Japan for a bit. If I know the European market, as well as the effect of the upcoming games that are released over the February-March period, then come March and the European launch, and we'll have global shortages again until well into the summer.

It will be interesting to see whether Sony will stick with the 1.0-1.2 million production capacity for now (assuming they fully meet that, which it seems likely they will, as they seem to be at about 500.000 per two weeks now), and aim for 12 million PS3s out on the shelves by Christmas 2007, or whether they will be more aggressive and ramp up production. I think they should at the very least prepare for being able to do so by Summer, because whether or not they sell, they should be prepared to keep up with the 360. Forget the Wii for the moment - the Wii will do well the next two years, no doubt, and the Wii's competitors will actually mostly be the handhelds and the PS2.

But in Europe, some significant things are happening that they should be ready for. For instance, in early summer nearly all Dutch channels will have switched to widescreen broadcasting. This is all part of a European trend, and very likely to stimulate sales of TV sets in an unexpected way - Sony should be ready to bring combined PS3 and Bravia deals to the table. Also important I think is that Sony quickly starts to bring out smaller games that show that the PS3 can in fact compete with the Wii in more areas than people think it can right now. Not so much in the sense that people will think that the PS3 is an expensive version of the Wii, but in the sense that people will have an increased perception of hey, out of the many things it does already, it can do that too. This will help the richer early adopter. To give an illustration, they should probably do a good looking bowling game with some nice physics, that is still fun, uses the Sixaxis, and make it a downloadable game costing 20 euros or so. Or maybe if Namco is clever, this is what they are doing with Tekken 5: DR the U.S. version, adding in the Tekken Bowl mode with Sixaxis support. Two other downloadable games they should get out there are Loco Roco and Mercury - the former should be piss-easy to do, and the latter even easier, since they are already well underway with the Wii version. This follows in the trend of getting PSP games onto the PS3 as they have been doing with Gripshift, and should be easy to do, yet have a very significant impact.

At this point, I wish I was working with Sony - there is so much potential in the system, and I would love being in a position where I could make things happen (yeah I know, so would Phil Harrison probably ;) ).
 
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