Yeah I've seen both 420k and 480k figures mentioned.
Shane Bettenhausen (1up) rumours canned 360 project?*
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Yeah I've seen both 420k and 480k figures mentioned.
Well, I wonder if Shane would consider Microsoft no longer publishing a game as being canceled? Because there is a number of games that Microsoft only has publishing rights to.
Also, in this recent interview Fable 2, Banjo, and Halo Wars are still due next year.
Confirmed not to be Fable 2
Also, in this recent interview Fable 2, Banjo, and Halo Wars are still due next year.
Confirmed not to be Fable 2
Well looking at platinum 360 sellers on a 2 year old platform you have:
Gears of War (4 million)
Halo 3 (3.3 million in US)
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (3 million, includes PC version)
Crackdown (1.5 million)
Perfect Dark Zero (1.5 million)
Call of Duty 2 (1.4 million)
Saints Row (1.4 million shipped)
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (1.4 million)
Dead Rising (1.3 million)
Madden NFL 07 (1.1 million in US)
Dead or Alive 4 (1 million)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (1 million)
Mostly action, FPS's and Madden if you ask me.
So there's no real basis to think they will sell well. They might do, but the 360 purchasing patterns are quite clearly defined.
I dont know many 360 owners who are truly excited about a new RPG and a first Banjo game for 7 years.
Thats why I dont think either would be a massive loss. More Banjo though really, since Rare have been so disappointing so far, and although I dont hear a lot of interest around Lost Oddysey, the 360 could use all the new IP's it can get.
The rest are action games, except Oblivion which is not a 'traditional' RPG, and that figure includes PC sales. Crackdown and GOW are third-person shooters for crying out loud.
So point not disproven
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In fact, publishers seem to have focused on those types of games as they are the ones that sell on the Xbox platform.
So point not disproven
.In fact, publishers seem to have focused on those types of games as they are the ones that sell on the Xbox platform.
Action?
You've thrown a blanket over a wide variety of game types and called it "action".
Gears of War - Cover-based third-person shooter
Crackdown (1.5 million) - Sandbox/Platform
Saints Row (1.4 million shipped) - GTA/Sandbox
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (1.4 million) - Mixed Mech and third person shooter
Dead Rising (1.3 million) - Survival comedy
Dead or Alive 4 (1 million) - 3D Fighter
So Tekken, VF, God of War and GTA are all the same type of game to you?
But sure, keep all games in one giant bracket if it makes you feel better.
You've thrown a blanket over a wide variety of game types and called it "action".
Gears of War - Cover-based third-person shooter
Crackdown (1.5 million) - Sandbox/Platform
Saints Row (1.4 million shipped) - GTA/Sandbox
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (1.4 million) - Mixed Mech and third person shooter
Dead Rising (1.3 million) - Survival comedy
Dead or Alive 4 (1 million) - 3D Fighter
So Tekken, VF, God of War and GTA are all the same type of game to you?
But sure, keep all games in one giant bracket if it makes you feel better.
Oblivion is to a traditional RPG, just not traditional that you see on consoles. Though that type of RPG is quickly becoming popular on consoles, it fits the western style more.
Action is the most pointless statement for a game known. Every game has some sort of action, RPGs have action, strategy games have action, all games (even educational ones for the most part!) have action.
Action is the most pointless statement for a game known. Every game has some sort of action, RPGs have action, strategy games have action, all games (even educational ones for the most part!) have action.
What else is there besides Oblivion (and ME if you consider it a tradition western RPG)?
Yeah, lets say "shooter" instead.
What else is there besides Oblivion (and ME if you consider it a tradition western RPG)?
Yeah, lets say "shooter" instead.
The Gothic series and Two Worlds are two recent examples. There really is nothing that separates Oblivion from more classical computer RPGs, though that would lead the discussion to how Oblivion is derivative, lifeless, and a rather bad game (IMO).
Anyone else feel that the game in question might not be something that has been officially announced yet? Last I head Rare had 3 titles in development for 2008, perhaps they are dropping development one game to dedicated all their efforts onto two big first party titles for Holiday 08 (PD2 and Banjo3) Rare have come out recently and stated that PDZ and Kameo both suffered from being rused titles, perhaps they want to ensure that will not happen again.
I know Shane said that the title was something people were excited for, but I'm going to chalk some of it up to media sensationalism.
/Assuming that story turns out to be true, naturally.
I know Shane said that the title was something people were excited for, but I'm going to chalk some of it up to media sensationalism.
/Assuming that story turns out to be true, naturally.
Yeah and did you notice Alan Wake is not on there? He specifically didn't mention Alan Wake. Even though Alan Wake is only MS published, most people think Shane probably was using careless wording, and could have meant either first party or MS published game.
I really, really hope it's not Alan Wake! Alan Wake also has not been seen in a long time. Most of the other games seem to be shown a lot, or confirmed in MS interviews.
I'm thinking, if it is AW, maybe they just couldn't do the scope of the game how they wanted on 360, so choose to focus on PC to keep their vision uncompromised. Like Crysis, 512MB of RAM wouldn't be kind, plus, AW is kind of a showcase for Intel Quad Core, maybe the 360 tri core of much lower power isn't cutting it.
I believe Banjo will sell. Almost any hyped game on 360 sells. I believe the 360 audience would even be excited for a platforming change of pace.
That's what I'm thinking as well. Especially considering it can't be any of the following...
Banjo
Fable 2
Halo Wars
Lionhead wanted to make sure everybody knew it wasn't them...
http://community.lionhead.com/forums/thread/2803087.aspx
As for Alan Wake, Remedy wanted everybody to know they are not a 1st party title...
http://www.alanwake.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1351
That doesn't necessarily mean that Microsoft wouldn't stop publishing it. But Remedy could shop for another publisher anyway.
My hunch is saying if it's not an announced title, then most likely an unamed Rare project(Peferct Dark, Viva Pinata, Kameo, etc.) Remember the Stamper brothers have left.
Tommy McClain
It could be just uncareful wording by Shane and that it not only 1st party games but also published games by MS even if the developer is 3rd party and their game does not qualify for 1st party as in the quote for example Alan Wake. However, there is another thing that makes me think that it is not AW and that is what would the reason be to can it? Remedy could just shop around for another publisher, MS might stop funding the game but they can not can it. As for it being Banjo or Fable2 is also doubtful Fable 2 being the most unlikely one but on the other hand with all the blunder that MS has been doing when it comes to games and devs and similar stuff I wouldn't put it past them...
archangelmorph
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I thought this was hilarious...!!
Either they responded to you directly Joshua or the "quicksand" concept was something you borrowed from the beginning..
Either way it's always interesting to hear marketing execs responding to arguements formed in internet forums..
There're two proprietary software platforms, Microsoft and Apple. The last thing Microsoft wants to do is bury Sony in the console market. They just want them contained, afterall, Sony is a great buffer against any encroachment by Apple. If market conditions change, Microsoft can put the pedal to the metal on a moments notice.
Sony is a domesticated cat that has been declawed.
Apple is a Siberian Tiger on the prowl.
For 2008 Microsoft has Fable 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human, and Alan Wake. Who knows what other games they haven't revealed to be Microsoft published or end up as timed exclusive?
Project Offset?
Cipher Complex?
Airtights games (ex-Microsoft Crimson skies people) undeclared title?
Sony is a domesticated cat that has been declawed.
Apple is a Siberian Tiger on the prowl.
For 2008 Microsoft has Fable 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human, and Alan Wake. Who knows what other games they haven't revealed to be Microsoft published or end up as timed exclusive?
Project Offset?
Cipher Complex?
Airtights games (ex-Microsoft Crimson skies people) undeclared title?
I thought this was hilarious...!!
Either they responded to you directly Joshua or the "quicksand" concept was something you borrowed from the beginning..
Either way it's always interesting to hear marketing execs responding to arguements formed in internet forums..
The interview was long before Acert's post.
archangelmorph
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Crimson skies was by FASA..
Ironworks did Crimson Skies X-Box, although it was labeled under FASA.
The Mechassualt team did Shadowrun, and they were really FASA.
The Ironworks team left long before Shadowruns completion and they formed Airtight.
It looks like Capcom is publishing Airtight games new title "dark void". Didn't realize it was announced. Seems to be Crimson Skies like.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6181276.html
archangelmorph
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Ah thanx for the clarafication...
