Resistance 2

I have downloaded the beta with the code patsu gave me(thanx patsu), but everytime I try to update it , it gives me an error!!!!!

Is it happening to anybody else?:oops:
 
Nebula said:
So you say onscreen it looks like the bullshots that are rendered at higher res and then dowscaled?

It's very close to what players see in-game (Only noticeable difference is AA). Like R1, the image is very clean (Jaggies is not a problem).


I have downloaded the beta with the code patsu gave me(thanx patsu), but everytime I try to update it , it gives me an error!!!!!

Is it happening to anybody else?:oops:

I played last night and it was okay. The beta is probably tied to US and UK IPs.
 
Let's put it like this. I'm not a pixel counter or junkie. I'm not going to flip my wig because I see a few jaggies (note: Very freaking few). This forum represents a VERY SMALL group of people who actually notice this kind of stuff.

In my humble opinion, we should be more concerned with the rendering techniques the game employs, how the lighting is handled, or how the hell they manage to render at what appears to be 720p at 30 frames a second with so many polygons on screen at one time. Not weather or not a given screen is full of AA and if it's a bullshot or not. That is really not anything important, nor worth noting, or discussion. It's pointless.

These shots are taken from the game engine. Similar to GT4, PGR4, Forza 2, Halo 3, etc, they are grabs taken from the game, and then rendered at high resolutions. This does absolutely nothing to destroy the game, or it's visual appeal, nor is it extremely misleading. It cannot create extra texture detail, it does not improve the lighting, it does not add more polygons. It ONLY gives the game smoother edges.

Why this is even an issue, or topic of discussion, is beyond me. If you KNOW better, then why in the HELL would you ever question it? YOU should not expect to see that level of AA on your screen (even though the IQ is pristine, far better than the vast majority of next generation games on the market).

Seriously, let's complain to complain. Why did Insomniac games use a high poly model of Nathan Hale in the menu screen! THE DECEPTION! SO ANGRY!!!
 
It's very close to what players see in-game (Only noticeable difference is AA). Like R1, the image is very clean (Jaggies is not a problem).




I played last night and it was okay. The beta is probably tied to US and UK IPs.

Others have had this error for Warhawk updates
Every time I try to download the latest patch for any game such as GTA4 or Warhawk, It can never download more than1% then an error appears (80710723). I tried deleting the game save and installing it again, but nothing works. Anyone can help?

Some people suggest to open ports on the ps3. How do you do that?
the meaning to 80710723 is "80710723 - Possible Port Error - Try opening ports , TCP port: 80, 443, 5223 and UDP port: 3478, 3479, 3658. or add Ps3 to DMZ"
 
That stinks that you can't download the patch, hopefully you find a fix! As for opening ports, you have to do that via your Router, not your PS3. It should be in your QoS or "Gaming" section of your router options (or maybe something else, it varies). What type of router do you have?

You could always just set up your PS3 as a DMZ account, which could potentially open it to attacks, but it wouldn't hurt to do that just to download the patches for games and then close it out.
 
That stinks that you can't download the patch, hopefully you find a fix! As for opening ports, you have to do that via your Router, not your PS3. It should be in your QoS or "Gaming" section of your router options (or maybe something else, it varies). What type of router do you have?

You could always just set up your PS3 as a DMZ account, which could potentially open it to attacks, but it wouldn't hurt to do that just to download the patches for games and then close it out.

What is that? I am sorry for my ignorance, but how do you do it?
(One of my local friends is able to update with the code from Qore, so it doesn't seem to be tied to IP)
 
Its updating now !!!!!!!!!!!!! :D Nothing changed, just started updating. Hope it completes without error.Looks like the servers are getting hammered!
 
DMZ is basically a way to open all ports for a given IP address, it'll ensure great performance on the game side, but also open you up to attacks (though I dont think there are a massive amount of hackers out there looking to get into your PS3).
 
Let's put it like this. I'm not a pixel counter or junkie. I'm not going to flip my wig because I see a few jaggies (note: Very freaking few). This forum represents a VERY SMALL group of people who actually notice this kind of stuff.
And enjoy talking about it ;)

...That is really not anything important, nor worth noting, or discussion. It's pointless.
Discussing AA and AF and other IQ aspects it part of the board's remit. Although granted it's not the best place to talk about such things in the game thread, when we have a perfectly fine technical thread for just this purpose.
 
This coming from the guy who wasn't really interested in R2, just wanted to use it to pass the time by until Gears 2...

If you really wanted to play it, you wouldn't have a problem calling a toll free number to get a new voucher code to get in the beta.

I know the clue train doesn't come by tha_con's house much so I'll try one last time. Late October and into the holidays is bringing a flood of great games that I'll be PAYING for. Just from Oct - Nov I have, Dead Space, LBP, Gears2, Fable 2, Left 4 Dead and Banjo on my TO BUY list. That's 6 games in a span of less than a month! Thus would I rather spend my limited time on gaming on the games I paid $60 a pop for OR play some free beta instead. Spending the time to play a beta, when I have a large library of unplayed games in boxes that I paid for, is ignorant in my book.

Releasing beta's in the slow part of the season before the rush, like CoD:WaW, LBP, SOCOM, End War and whatever else is perfect for ME and likely many others because I don't have any games purchased during this time and this lets me play through the beta's with ample time to decide if the game if for me or not. CoD5 is not for me even though I love CoD4. LBP ended on the to buy list after the beta and me following up on the game due to the beta.

Anyway, a buddy gave me his extra code this morning so I'll play it during the weekend to see how it is.
 
Your post pretty much turned my one sentence into 3 paragraphs. You are using this beta as a means to pass the time until other games release. Right or wrong?

I just think if you were that concerned with playing this beta, you wouldn't mind calling a toll free number to get a new code and hop on board.

And enjoy talking about it ;)

Discussing AA and AF and other IQ aspects it part of the board's remit. Although granted it's not the best place to talk about such things in the game thread, when we have a perfectly fine technical thread for just this purpose.

See, when we're talking real time rendering, AA and AF, etc, are all open game for discussion. But trying to determine weather or not a screen is a bullshot or not, is rather pointless. 99% of the time you can immediately tell if a screen was rendered at a higher resolution, etc, or if it is a straight grab from a frame buffer.

I just really feel like discussion about bullshots is rather irrelevant, because you're really not talking about anything related to the game or engine at all, you're just trying to chastise the developer for releasing a screenshot with additional AA. It's pretty much pointless, and the discussion never leads to anything interesting, IMO.

I'm all for talking real time rendering, etc.
 
When playing coop, whenever we finish/die and the results show up, I always show up with 0 kill/xp/headshot etc. even though in the previous screen I might've had far more than that. Does anyone else see this?

And haha, medics rock. I just got like 2x the xp of anyone else on a team consisting mostly of soldiers.
 
Anyway, a buddy gave me his extra code this morning so I'll play it during the weekend to see how it is.

Cool. Try the 8P co-op on Orick.

When you hit the hilltop, pay attention to where the enemies really are and stay close to the medics, or stay far away from the field (so your team won't get killed all at once). There are multiple spawn points and multiple waves. If your team has fewer than 3 medics, don't feel shy to bark orders to get people to change class. :)

The bosses are still too easy/boring in this beta. The hybrids indoor are ok. The hybrids on the hilltop are the best (coz they are mobile !). There is also some issue with spawning (Spawn right in the middle of a firefight >_<).

If you play with high level players, their special abilities will help (e.g., I could turn invisible in the private beta, but now I am just a regular soldier :().

If you have extra time, check out the equipment screens (It's not in the private beta). As expected, when you gained level, you get extra weapon and extra capability. With special equipments, you can also improve your meta attributes by "buying" stuff (e.g., improve respawn time).
 
When playing coop, whenever we finish/die and the results show up, I always show up with 0 kill/xp/headshot etc. even though in the previous screen I might've had far more than that. Does anyone else see this?

It was fine last night. Probably beta servers are getting hit.

The XP points may come later if they use the same async update technique in R1.
 
I know the clue train doesn't come by tha_con's house much so I'll try one last time. Late October and into the holidays is bringing a flood of great games that I'll be PAYING for. Just from Oct - Nov I have, Dead Space, LBP, Gears2, Fable 2, Left 4 Dead and Banjo on my TO BUY list. That's 6 games in a span of less than a month! Thus would I rather spend my limited time on gaming on the games I paid $60 a pop for OR play some free beta instead. Spending the time to play a beta, when I have a large library of unplayed games in boxes that I paid for, is ignorant in my book.

You will have those games you bought for a long time, until you sell them, or whatever you chose to do. If you do not own a game, yet are in the beta, spending time on that would seem like a fair thing to do, given the beta will end, and all those games you bought will still be there in the end. Right or wrong?

Releasing beta's in the slow part of the season before the rush, like CoD:WaW, LBP, SOCOM, End War and whatever else is perfect for ME and likely many others because I don't have any games purchased during this time and this lets me play through the beta's with ample time to decide if the game if for me or not. CoD5 is not for me even though I love CoD4. LBP ended on the to buy list after the beta and me following up on the game due to the beta.

Right, so what you're essentially saying here is, the slow part of the season (September, October) is a great time for you to play beta's, because you don't have any games purchased, and it will also allow you to decide if you want to buy it.

Interestingly enough, you say it's foolish to play a beta if you have games you've already paid for...yet you also say taht you want to play the beta's to decide if you want to play the games. So if there's a game you are truly interested in (like Resistance 2) would you not want to play the beta, no matter what the time, to see if in fact you would like to buy it? I mean, that beta will come to and end, while you will still own your boxed titles.

It seems like it would make sense to play the beta, no matter what the time frame or games you own, especially if you care enough to determine if you want to buy it.

Either way, I would appreciate it if you would stop with the instults, I may be a bit blunt, but I haven't said anything to insult you, so I think it's only fair you at least try to do the same.
 
Reading though posts on MyRes, GAF, and here, I've noticed one thing that I find really interesting.

People are either in Love with Co-Op, or in love with Competitive. But rarely love both. It's amazing that there is something for everyone in this, and it has such a broad appeal so far. I like both modes a lot, though I am partial to co-op (RPG fan).
 
You will have those games you bought for a long time, until you sell them, or whatever you chose to do. If you do not own a game, yet are in the beta, spending time on that would seem like a fair thing to do, given the beta will end, and all those games you bought will still be there in the end. Right or wrong?

Wrong. I buy the game on release dates so I can play them right then with friends. I like instant gratification from my purchases.

Right, so what you're essentially saying here is, the slow part of the season (September, October) is a great time for you to play beta's, because you don't have any games purchased, and it will also allow you to decide if you want to buy it.

Exactly. And I see nothing wrong with that. And during the slow part, I can spend the proper time on a beta to see how it sits with me vs rushing through it to get to other games.

Interestingly enough, you say it's foolish to play a beta if you have games you've already paid for...yet you also say taht you want to play the beta's to decide if you want to play the games. So if there's a game you are truly interested in (like Resistance 2) would you not want to play the beta, no matter what the time, to see if in fact you would like to buy it? I mean, that beta will come to and end, while you will still own your boxed titles.

It seems like it would make sense to play the beta, no matter what the time frame or games you own, especially if you care enough to determine if you want to buy it.

I like beta's for games I'm unsure of. R2, I am unsure of thus a beta is great for evaluation. Games that are a must buy, I don't care either way if they have a beta or not. However, I will not take the time away from retail games waiting in wrappers to play beta's. That is simply my preference and I hope you're not trying to debate something that subjective....
 
Playing some more, it's great, but I suspect the medic may be overpowered. The phoenix gun damage isn't great, but it heals you, never needs reloading and never runs out of ammo, besides having great range. Multiple medics can build charges off the same enemy, so right now I'm wondering if an all-medic team, boosting their self-heal with the occasional secondary-fire heal wouldn't be more effective than a more balanced team composition.
 
Playing some more, it's great, but I suspect the medic may be overpowered. The phoenix gun damage isn't great, but it heals you, never needs reloading and never runs out of ammo, besides having great range. Multiple medics can build charges off the same enemy, so right now I'm wondering if an all-medic team, boosting their self-heal with the occasional secondary-fire heal wouldn't be more effective than a more balanced team composition.

If it's anything like the Private Beta, an all medic team will get demolished by a group of steelheads.
 
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