PS3 sales

Really? I was under the impression MS dropped the ball as the game was offered to MS and they turned it down.:???:

I think it was mostly like accepting NT's offer but under some conditions that werent very favorable by the dev so they turned their heads somewhere else to a different publisher
 
Latest Japanese sales:

DSL 127,647
Wii 86,395
PSP 37,032
PS3 21,105
PS2 20,169
Xbox360 7,041

Sony cant be happy right now, the second week they basically sell like crap. Even if the ps3 doesnt have that much good games yet you would atleast expect that a decent amount of fans would buy the system. If you'd look at the numbers you almost get a DS <-> PSP feel...
 
Latest Japanese sales:

DSL 127,647
Wii 86,395
PSP 37,032
PS3 21,105
PS2 20,169
Xbox360 7,041

Sony cant be happy right now, the second week they basically sell like crap. Even if the ps3 doesnt have that much good games yet you would atleast expect that a decent amount of fans would buy the system. If you'd look at the numbers you almost get a DS <-> PSP feel...

Any recent reports on availability? Any chance there is little availability due to European launch build up or are they still at the ~70k week delivery pace?
 
Well i've heard some people say its not hard at all to buy a ps3 in the middle of Tokyo. Besides I doubt sony cant deliver more than 25.000 ps3's a week in Japan.
 
I think it's kinda obvious that Japanese gamers these days prefer the lower-cost option, even if that means that they don't get ze uber aitch dee...

And it's been like that for quite a while now, it's amazing that Sony didn't see this. It's one thing to "want to build the best hardware ever", another to just build it to please themselves and launch it in a market where no one really cares - at that price.
 
They built it because KK wanted it...

Let's not start blaming grampa Ken. Bless him.

In their defence, they probably predicted that they can get manufacturing costs down relatively quickly (explains why they pushed so hard to build their own fabs and manufacture most of the thing themselves), which means they would drop the price quite quickly. That would only mean that PS3 would have a very slow start - which it is having.
When they drop the price (and they're gonna have to do that very soon), PS3 will start rolling, together with the games that will eventually come out.

It's all part of a bigger picture.

Nintendo's strategy, on the other hand, was geared to a very, very strong start. In their case, their task is to keep selling very well (like it happened with DS) by releasing games the people will want to play. Hardware costs are not an issue for them.
 
Let's not start blaming grampa Ken. Bless him.

In their defence, they probably predicted that they can get manufacturing costs down relatively quickly (explains why they pushed so hard to build their own fabs and manufacture most of the thing themselves), which means they would drop the price quite quickly. That would only mean that PS3 would have a very slow start - which it is having.
When they drop the price (and they're gonna have to do that very soon), PS3 will start rolling, together with the games that will eventually come out.

It's all part of a bigger picture.

Nintendo's strategy, on the other hand, was geared to a very, very strong start. In their case, their task is to keep selling very well (like it happened with DS) by releasing games the people will want to play. Hardware costs are not an issue for them.

Why do I get the feeling that these two japanese guys are in this together? I mean like teaming against MS. I would not be the first time japanese firms rally against a foreign one.
 
Why do I get the feeling that these two japanese guys are in this together? I mean like teaming against MS. I would not be the first time japanese firms rally against a foreign one.

Well i don't think Mr Sony and Mr Nintendo go to dinner together or have secret meetings in a secret bunker inside a volcano to plot MS's demise in Japan, or to construct a "laser" to destroy MS's "headquarters"...

But it's true that they would probably prefer to be the two main players in Japan, without an american company in that market, which is pretty much what has been happening... ever... The videogame market in Japan is seen differently than in the rest of the world. For us they're "just videogames". In Japan they have a different perception.

I'm sure someone like one would be able to explain this better than me.
 
Well i don't think Mr Sony and Mr Nintendo go to dinner together or have secret meetings in a secret bunker inside a volcano to plot MS's demise in Japan, or to construct a "laser" to destroy MS's "headquarters"...

I wouldn't be too sure about that. Mr SONY did build a blue laser weapon. :LOL:
 
Well i don't think Mr Sony and Mr Nintendo go to dinner together or have secret meetings in a secret bunker inside a volcano to plot MS's demise in Japan, or to construct a "laser" to destroy MS's "headquarters"....

I've seen stranger things happen....And I'm not talking only about Japan. Dr. Evil and No2 always plan to conker the world - and they have the blue laser (ad least Dr. Evil has)!
 
Any recent reports on availability? Any chance there is little availability due to European launch build up or are they still at the ~70k week delivery pace?

According to Sony they shipped 1 million to Japan.

To date they have sold less than 600k.

No problems with availability. ;)
 
The Wii numbers look great in comparison to the PS3 numbers in Japan the past couple of weeks.

But how are they historically to PS2 and GC?

I've heard that macroeconomically, Japan didn't do a lot of spending this past Xmas season, compared to US and EU. For instance, iPod sales were up in US and way up in EU but actually down in Japan.

Perhaps that had to do with two new consoles being in the market over there.

Or maybe, Japanese spending overall wasn't that great. So it would be helpful to know how the Wii shipments compare to the shipments of PS2 and other previous consoles launched over there.
 
The Wii numbers look great in comparison to the PS3 numbers in Japan the past couple of weeks.

But how are they historically to PS2 and GC?

I've heard that macroeconomically, Japan didn't do a lot of spending this past Xmas season, compared to US and EU. For instance, iPod sales were up in US and way up in EU but actually down in Japan.

Perhaps that had to do with two new consoles being in the market over there.

Or maybe, Japanese spending overall wasn't that great. So it would be helpful to know how the Wii shipments compare to the shipments of PS2 and other previous consoles launched over there.


GC sold in total about 4million units lifetime and Wii has sold 1.2 million in about two months. (in Japan)
 
ok so now it's not just anecdotal anymore.


oh and $129 US for every RSX goes to Nvidia? :oops:

By Daniel Jacobs Posted 29 January 2007 @ 05:11 pm EST

(International Business Times) - Growing signs of weaker demand for Sony's new Playstation 3 video game system may be impacting some of its design partners, a new report indicates, with graphics system provider Nvidia (NASDAQ: NVDA), feeling Wall-Street heat today.

A series of reports last week pointed to longer than expected shelf-time for Sony's Playstation 3 video-game console, as well growing inventories across the country, raising concern about possible slower demand for the new system.

Santa-Clara Calif.-based Nvidia, which provides the technology behind the system's advanced graphics and special effects, may take a hit as a result of the slowdown.

"Sony royalties garnered by Nvidia from the PS3 build are expected to be the primary driver of Nvidia’s gross-margin expansion in fiscal 2008," Michael McConnell, semiconductor analysts of Pacific Crest said.

"Although poor manufacturing yields on Blu-Ray diodes were the initial cause of PS3 unit constraints at retailers, we have seen evidence of weaker-than-expected consumer demand as availability has improved, likely stemming form overly high prices at retailers and a lack of compelling game titles."

While the report did not speculate on the number of units that would be sold, a component "tear-down" performed by market researcher iSuppli last month showed that Nvidia would receive $129.00 for every Playstation 3 sold.

The analyst lowered his price target for Nvidia to $33 from $45, and predicted earnings of $1.67 a share for the year, instead of $1.77 previously indicated.

Shares of Nvidia closed down $1.29, or 4.10 percent, to $30.18 in Monday trading on the Nasdaq Stock Exchange.
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2007...ation-nvda.htm
 
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The report is stating that NVIDIA's overall margin growth that they have previously given giudance for may be hampered (i.e. potentially not reach their guidance) based on the potential that actual PS3 sales are lower than those NVIDIA have based their forecasts on. Given the the current share price is partly based on those forcasts, actuals coming lower than forecasts will have effects.

Tap In - the $129 element relates to the predicted cost of the overall RSX solution to Sony. Sony, however, manufactures it and is only paying a license fee to NVIDIA.
 
The report is stating that NVIDIA's overall margin growth that they have previously given giudance for may be hampered (i.e. potentially not reach their guidance) based on the potential that actual PS3 sales are lower than those NVIDIA have based their forecasts on. Given the the current share price is partly based on those forcasts, actuals coming lower than forecasts will have effects.
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I understand that DB, but the article makes it sound like Nvidia shares are crashing all due to the failing PS3.
 
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