Is that really true? I though that Sony had said that in Europe they will different SKUs for different countries, and generaly the northern part would be mostly premiums and maybe only premiums while in the southern europe mostly 20ies...
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Is that really true? I though that Sony had said that in Europe they will different SKUs for different countries, and generaly the northern part would be mostly premiums and maybe only premiums while in the southern europe mostly 20ies...
If it is true that Sony will be launching only the premiums here in Europe at 599€ that is I think around atleast 100€ more than "usuall". In Sweden the PS2 launched 4500SEK and the PS3 is expected to launch around 6000SEK so there is 1500SEK difference which is more than 150€ difference in the launch prices, definitely not as big a difference as in the US but it for sure is more expensive.
Yes, I knew most of the discussion has been about launch prices, but then again I do think that the launch price will set the pricing, at least to some degree, for the rest of the generation, and that is why I started talking about the over price of the PS2.
Since Sony seems to use the PS3 as a way to secure the next gen video format and counted on their 100 million+ install base to help with the task and try and get BR out to as many homes as fast as possible, it seems a bit strange that they would go for such a pricing as most of them never payed for more than 200$, a price the PS3 will most likely take quite some time to get down to if ever. Then again maybe that is not their strategy at all, what do I know...
Well Sony did claim that the PS3 wasn´t meant as the Blu-Ray saviour though right now it´s the best and cheapest Blu-Ray player
Maybe the launch price was something Sony did because they knew they would have very few unites so why not try and milk the last dollar from those units. If sony drops the price by 200$ sometime in 2007 the PS3 may still be a bit more expensive than the competitors, but it will also seem like the best deal
Everyone knew that PS3 would be more expensive than PS2 at launch. And everyone in Europe (and other territories) know that we are paying for the lower prices in the US - like everything else really.
I'm not sure what your point is. PS3 is more expensive than "usual". But it's really all about value. It might be more expensive, but you get a whole lot more than on PS2. To some people that is still not enough "value", whether other people consider the current price "a steal" because to them, the value they get from the product at that price is very good. It's all personal, and we talked about this a lot in the past.
PS3 will always be more expensive than PS2 and will always be more expensive than 360.
That's it. You don't know their strategy. But if you think hard enough, their strategy is quite clear.
It is however quite simply not true that Sony will launch only the 60gb version in Europe, and so the 499 euro version, after taking into account the inflation over the last six years, is very much on par with the PS2 pricing when that was launched. And then you still had to buy a memory card.
What evidence is there to say that PS3 was priced at $599 out of a desire to test the markets reaction to a pricing policy change and not out of pure necessity?
If analyst costs are to be believed Sony are losing (on the 60GB, 20GB is worse) ~$240 per console in the US, ~$280 in Japan and $100-150 in the EU.
It would seem to suggest that it is in no way ideal for them to go cheaper than the price they are already at without widening the losses. I don’t think this generation will signal any shift in the pricing strategy for the next-generation. Sony’s position this time around has been forced by a format war they are involved in.
Unless the next round of consoles also comes in the midst of a new format war, I have my doubts whether we’ll be seeing the next ‘station priced so absurdly above the competition, especially given the vast swathes of market share I expect PS3 to lose in all territories.
If analyst costs are to be believed Sony are losing (on the 60GB, 20GB is worse) ~$240 per console in the US, ~$280 in Japan and $100-150 in the EU.
It would seem to suggest that it is in no way ideal for them to go cheaper than the price they are already at without widening the losses. I don’t think this generation will signal any shift in the pricing strategy for the next-generation. Sony’s position this time around has been forced by a format war they are involved in.
Unless the next round of consoles also comes in the midst of a new format war, I have my doubts whether we’ll be seeing the next ‘station priced so absurdly above the competition, especially given the vast swathes of market share I expect PS3 to lose in all territories.
Exactly. I paid UK£350 for my PS2 - not even at launch. That's more than EUR499, and it was definitely a lot more money then than it is now. And there was no HDD, no high def, no internet connection, no wireless controllers...
Really, lots of people need a reality check.
DuckThor Evil
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And no competition.
Why did you pay £350? Wasn't the RRP always £299?
It was, to be honest i cant remember why. But even then, £299 is still around EUR450, and that's in 2000.
RRP was £329.99 I think. I got mine in June 2001 from Amazon for that price.
PS2 launchpice (Belgium) = 500 euro
Word. It's hard for people outside Europe to understand how happy we are with the dollar -> euro conversion. There's still a price difference, but it never was that small.
Afaik the Dreamcast was out, the launch games weren´t that good and you could buy standalone DVD players? My memory may be shaky but the PS3 looks to me to beat the PS2 with the launch lineup, especially in Europe.
DuckThor Evil
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Like I said, no competition :smile:
edit: I'm not saying PS3 as a whole is not good value, it just depends on the point of view. neither opinion is wrong actually.
I kinda agree with Dr Evil on this. The competition for PS3 on price is far higher than PS2. There's a similar looking console that's much cheaper and more developed. £350 is a great price for a games console of PS3's specs compared to PS2, but isn't so great when compared to a £250 rival console. And that's what shoppers in 2007 will be comparing the pricepoint to.
I´m sure that you find many diehard sega fans that was dead certain that the Dreamcast was real competition
The PS3 as a pure gaming rig with the current games at the current price is not impressive. For someone who wants a Blu-Ray player it´s a fantastic offer
The 360 leaves me cold, no games got me excited at all so it could be 100$ for all i care (which got me an XBOX,Forza and PGR2
).If that's true are you sure it wasn't a bundle? It's largely inconsequential I know, but wikipedia confirmed what I had thought.
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Also, I understand your point LB, regarding 2000s prices not making the price of the PS3 seem so bad but lets not forget that unlike last time, the PS3 is launching against 2 competitors that are lower priced, one of which, despite a similar time gap, has launched at a lower price than last time.
quest55720
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Exactly sony is attempting to double the price of buying a game machine. If sony gets away with doubling the price what is the PS4 going to cost 999dollars? I could careless about the extras when I buy a console I want to play games not watch movies or play with linux.
Stop talking about the PS2 european prices
You guys are missing the point completely.
Yes the PS2 launched at a very high price in Europe, it also got a price cut very fast. The competition, also launched at prices pretty close to the PS2.
This time, the console is launching at high prices everywere in the world and even higher in europe. The competition, has allready launched their machines and they are out there for half the price.
Oh, and stop talking about inflation, Inflation can only be used for measuring basic goods that are needed, not luxury items, and ASPECIALLY not electronics.
You guys are missing the point completely.
Yes the PS2 launched at a very high price in Europe, it also got a price cut very fast. The competition, also launched at prices pretty close to the PS2.
This time, the console is launching at high prices everywere in the world and even higher in europe. The competition, has allready launched their machines and they are out there for half the price.
Oh, and stop talking about inflation, Inflation can only be used for measuring basic goods that are needed, not luxury items, and ASPECIALLY not electronics.
